Lazing targets

[Naaman]

Ah, I see. Well, if you're looking for "realism," try to think of it more like taking a picture of the target, rather than "shooting" it with a "laser."

If the target is stationary, its really a mindless task. I suppose that a target trying to "dodge" the targeter/designator would trigger an opposed roll. In that case, I'm not sure which skill I'd use... maybe just have the target roll his skill against the dexterity or mechanical of the spotter, with scale modifiers applied.(?)

[garhkal]

What i have wrote so far on it (for the table that i will be using it) is if the target is successfully 'lazed' and stays lazed while the missiles are in flight, they gain +3d to their 'fire control' to hit their target.
Flight time is based on range.
1 round in air for short, 2 for medium and 3 for long.
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[Naaman]

Yeah, it's an interesting conundrum: usually, you'd only laze a stationary target, so there would be no roll required... if you want the possibility of the target somehow evading the laser, then there's gotta be a roll in there somewhere...

[garhkal]

And since my 'lazing' unit is using missile weapons (for the device), it can be easily opposed by a dodge/vehicle maneuver.
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[Naaman]

Havd you worked out how the pilot of the target craft would know that he is being painted?

[garhkal]

Not yet, as the way i have always seen 'lazing targets' is that they don't leave any discernable marks. Certain craft when powered up and 'flying' might have targeting lock alarms, but most civilian ships especially transports wouldn't (Well imo).
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[Pel]

I'd think any Dedicated Energy Receptor worth its salt would detect a targeting laser. [actually, it will. SWRPG Sourcebook, p. 9 specifically mentions laser light.]

Of course most speeders probably don't have those sensors, but walkers might and starfighters definitely would.
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[garhkal]

So
A) i need to find out if Gallofree freighters have DERs
and B) someone needs to be inside them, checking the sensors to get the word that they are being lazed..
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[Naaman]

You know,, I'm not sure what modern aircraft use, but AT LEAST since the 1980s, military craft have been able to determine when an enemy figher has achieved missile lock. On the other hand, once the lock is achieved, the pilot just shoots and forgets about it; there is no need to continue to "aim" (or whatever) the targeting system... so it mmigjt be worth considering that a laser designator might be a way AROUND missile lock detection in exchange for requiring the laser to remain on target for the entire flligjt of the missile.

Just a thought.

[CRMcNeill]

I think the more important question is, do you want it to have a chance to dodge. If so, then the pilot must have some mechanism to be aware that he is being targeted. Technological capabilities and limitations in a fictional universe are ultimately dictated by the story you are trying to tell.
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[garhkal]

[Pel]

DERs are outfitted on military vehicles and are probably used by the good security firms as well. Civilian transports may or may not have them. As previously stated it all depends on whether you want to allow a chance to dodge or not and if so, how good the sensors operator/droid brain is at interpreting the data.

To step into RL for a moment, lasing came into vogue in the 1980's specifically because there were no widespread means of detecting a small laser beam, other than seeing it on the target next to you, and those guys usually didn't live long enough to spill the beans ("Hey, where'd that shiny red dot come from?" queue earth-shattering kaboom). Before that, everyone used gravity and windage, saturation bombing, or radar-guided ordnance. Fast forward to the present and the capability to detect a targeting laser's been around for a while.
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[garhkal]

True, but if the pcs (and npcs that are with them) are outside the ship(s), figuring they need to fight them off, how would they tell the ships are getting Lazed?
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[Pel]