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PostPosted: Thu Dec 21, 2017 5:18 pm    Post subject: Shuttles & the Greek Alphabet Reply with quote

So I learned something new and interesting today. I've always wondered how the Greek Alphabet made its way into the SWU, giving us ships like the Lambda- and Delta-Class Shuttles. Apparently, it has been retconned by co-opting the Greek Alphabet as the Tionese Alphabet.

For those of you who are interested, here's a list of the assigned and unassigned Tionese letters that make up Sienar/Cygnus' line of shuttles:
    CLONE WARS:
    Beta-Class Assault Shuttle
    Eta-Class Light Shuttle
    Kappa-Class Troop Shuttle
    Theta-Class Utility Shuttle
    Nu-Class Combat Shuttle
    Omega-Class Cargo Shuttle

    EMPIRE:
    Alpha-Class Gunboat
    Gamma-Class Assault Shuttle
    Delta-Class Command Shuttle
    Zeta-Class Cargo Shuttle
    Lambda-Class Utility Shuttle
    Mu-Class Light Shuttle (fractalsponge)
    Chi-Class Heavy Dropship (fractalsponge)

    TFA/TLJ:
    Xi-Class Light Shuttle
    Upsilon-Class Command Shuttle

    UNASSIGNED:
    Epsilon
    Iota
    Omicron
    Pi
    Rho*
    Sigma*
    Tau
    Phi
    Psi

    *Technically, the Rho and Sigma Classes are assigned, but the ships used are highly modified one-offs ships in the comic books or obscure adventures. I expect I'll be ignoring them.

EDIT: Added Epsilon to Unassigned List.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 22, 2017 12:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow.. Never there were all those names, but it does make sense they'ed have used greek lettering..
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 22, 2017 1:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Wow.. Never knew there were all those names, but it does make sense they'ed have used greek lettering..

TBT, never once in the films is any of the shuttles referred to by the Greek name. It's entirely an EU invention.

As far as the above list, it's a reasonable assumption that the Alliance will have at least limited access to everything on the Clone Wars list, and a select few from the Imperial list.

For myself, I've long considered renaming the Sentinel-Class Landing Craft the Sigma-Class (for consistency's sake), and the much-overused Delta-Class Escort Shuttles and Stormtrooper Transports will likely need to be renamed, as well...
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 22, 2017 1:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CRMcNeill wrote:
TBT, never once in the films is any of the shuttles referred to by the Greek name. It's entirely an EU invention.

I wouldn't say entirely. I'm pretty sure the Lamda-class shuttle was named when designed in preproduction of RotJ because it resembles the greek letter Λ. It may have even made it into the shooting script of the film, even if it was never stated in the film.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 22, 2017 1:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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CRMcNeill wrote:
TBT, never once in the films is any of the shuttles referred to by the Greek name. It's entirely an EU invention.

I wouldn't say entirely. I'm pretty sure the Lamda-class shuttle was named when designed in preproduction of RotJ because it resembles the greek letter Λ. It may have even made it into the shooting script of the film, even if it was never stated in the film.

AFAIAC, if it was never explicitly stated on-screen, it's EU.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 22, 2017 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Perhaps we fans can come up with some of the missing letters..

I can see say, making the Rho, a medical shuttle, similar to that rebel EMV rescue unit you created a little while back. The Omicron a ship to shore mass transit shuttle (No hyperdrive capacity, limited space speed).
And maybe the Psi, some sort of Infiltration one for Compnor..
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 22, 2017 5:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

garhkal wrote:
Perhaps we fans can come up with some of the missing letters..

That was my thinking, but there are a few ships that need to be reassigned, first.

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I can see say, making the Rho, a medical shuttle, similar to that rebel EMV rescue unit you created a little while back.

I don't recall creating one, but I did suggest something to that effect. The Sprint-Class Med-Runner from The Truce At Bakura Sourcebook fills that role quite nicely. IMO, it looks a little too much like the Gamma-Class Assault Shuttle to be a good fit with the stated mission (primarily the fact that it still has the Gamma's 40 individual spacetrooper hatches), but the concept is excellent. All it needs is some tractor beam projectors, plasma torches and other rescue equipment to be a viable rescue platform.

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The Omicron a ship to shore mass transit shuttle (No hyperdrive capacity, limited space speed).
And maybe the Psi, some sort of Infiltration one for Compnor..

Or just a general infiltration model. I re-did the stats for the Svelte-Class Shuttle from The Jedi Academy Sourcebook as a Special Operations Shuttle, so changing the name from Svelte- to Psi- isn't a hard switch.

As for the other, Greek Letters seem to be reserved for hyperspace-capable platforms, so assigning Omicron to a ship with a non-HS mission doesn't really fit.

The Theta-Class Landing Barge needs to be renamed, but it doesn't really fit with the HS-capable theme, either, and since the EU already uses Greek mythology for landing barges (the Y-85 Titan), I'd rather call the smaller Theta an Atlas- or Typhon-Class; Typhon would probably be more poetically appropriate, seeing as how the Theta looks very much like a smaller version of the Titan.

Incidentally, I left out the letter Epsilon. According to Wookieepedia, there is an Epsilon-Class Shuttle, but the page itself doesn't exist, nor can I find any record of an Epsilon-Class Shuttle related to Star Wars. As such, I'm going to add it to the Unassigned list.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 22, 2017 9:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CRMcNeill wrote:
AFAIAC, if it was never explicitly stated on-screen, it's EU.

Ah. You're using EU to mean "not stated in films." Gotcha.
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