Terminator Crossover

[garhkal]

[Mamatried]

[CRMcNeill]

[garhkal]

One thing i often wonder about the terminator films.. DId they ever try to EMP any terminator, and if so, how effective was it (If at all).

IF NOT, then would that necessitate ION damage is also ineffective?
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[KageRyu]

I have seen this concept pop up many times over the decades... I would like to offer some thoughts.

T-800 - was the standard model of foot soldier used in the war of the machines as indicated by the first film at the time (?) of that film. One of the main differences between a Terminator and a standard foot soldier was the camouflage to allow it to infiltrate. In essence these should not be too far removed from a good combat droid (not the stuff from the AOTC or prequel era) as described in the SW sourcebook.

Durability - It seems every time this idea resurfaces, there is talk of loading the terminator down with armor, weapons, special damage resistances, etc... I would strongly advise and counsel against this. What made the T-800 so dangerous in the movies was that it was being faced in 20th century earth using firearms not meant for war. In the shots of the future war, where the resistance has plasma rifles, the T-800 are more vulnerable. Giving the Droid 1D of armor on top of a decent STRENGTH would make it almost impervious to firearms )the armor would double against physical damage). At 4D STRENGTH plus 1D Armor you would almost need a Heavy Blaster or Blaster Rifle to inflict serious damage (and I am of a mind that a Blaster should be comparable to the Plasma Weapons described in the original Terminator movie).

Visual Modes - To represent the different visual Modes, such as night-vision, thermal, zoom, etc... I would give the Droid appropriate sensor packages. Definitely built in Macrobinocular functions. Also something that has precedent in RAW for droids and not very far fetched in a SW setting.

Targeting - Easy enough to explain and handle - built in fire control. How many D is the issue (I'd probably keep it at around 1D).

Anatomy Training - This is something that is a bit more tricky, as I have never liked RPGs translating medical knowledge or anatomy directly to any kind of bonus damage. I would likely handle this with it being able to provide a knowledge of vital areas or vulnerabilities on an appropriate species, and on a successful roll providing a one time bonus to an interrogation, or intimidation roll, or allowing a called shot to a vital area with a trade off of +1D damage per +1D difficulty to hit (with a 3D max). Of course, the Droid would actually have to allocate skill dice to Alien Species skill and First Aide to have this bonus.

Camouflage - Again this would require a bit of house rules. normally you can tell a Droid is a droid by looking at it. Having some form of Camouflage would change this and now it becomes a question of how good is that camouflage. I would rate this as a Die Code that would be used to add to Search or Perception difficulty checks to determine it is a droid. The base difficulty of the check would depend on distance and environment (in terms of how appropriate the cammoflage is).

1D - Hard to detect at a distance or in dim light or crowded area, but at close range the cammoflage is obviously flawed, fake, or unconvincing (rubbery skin, waxy, etc..). At any range closer than 25 meters an automatic perception check is allowed versus just the cammoflage rating to detect the fake. At less than 5 meters it is obvious to see the fake.

2D - Using High grade synthetics, and better materials, the cammoflage may hold up at even close ranges. It becomes near impossible to notice in large crowds or poor lighting. At ranges of 5m a perception check is allowed versus the rating of cammoflage to tell it's a droid.

3D - Cloned flesh over the machine and advanced bio-organic materials make the machine hard to tell from the intended species even at close range, and it may even pass close scrutiny. Only in close proximity directly interacting with the droid is there any chance to determine it is a droid, requiring a Perception roll versus the die code of the cammoflage. A search roll may only be used if there is a tip of of some sort or something definitely out of place.

Aliens or droids with enhanced senses or special sensors may get a bonus to these detection rolls as they have a better chance to notice something is off (they machine may not smell right, the motors may make noises outside normal human hearing, the internals may generate slightly more heat or be too cool and efficient, etc...)

Damage reduces the effective of all cammoflage just as it reduces other systems and skills or wounds affect a placer.

There is no need the droid even be human, it could be camouflaged as any sentient species.

These are some of my thoughts, there is so much more I could address. Just keep in mind that SW is a far cry from 20th century Earth, and a Terminator would be far more vulnerable to the advanced weaponry of such a setting than to shotguns, pistols, and lead pipes on Earth. I would strongly urge against stat bloat or 6D Strength for a long list of reasons covered in so many threads across these forums and others regarding blaster proof characters.
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[KageRyu]

Forgot to mention...
Ion Weapons - I would not make it immune to ion weapons. These are so much more potent than a basic EMP. I might allow it to recover in a given length of time, have the effects fall off due to redundant systems. At the end of the day, it is a machine, and Ion Weapons should have an effect. Optionally, the organic cammoflage might be allowed to act as some shielding against these if it is intact, as Ion Weapons are not meant to do much to organics...maybe half the organic cammoflage die code ads to damage resistance. I would still be very careful with this though.
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[Mamatried]

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[willg]

[willg]

There was a Terminator RPG, web-published, using a d20 system.

http://www.terminatorfiles.com/interact/fanprojects/gaming_001.htm

Would be interesting to see a conversion to D6, and especially Star Wars d6.

A lot of the weapons used are probably already in Empire invades Earth.

[KageRyu]

If you are looking for D6 stats for contemporary weapons, there are official WEG stats available in the D6 Adventure book for a lot of contemporary weapons. It also has updated rules for Multi-Tap and burst fire - though I feel those could still use some improvement (I had written extensive rules for this myself, but they only currently exist in a spiral notebook and never got edited or published). I believe this book is still available on Drive Thru RPG. https://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/20446/D6-Adventure

There was also a book released for TORG that had D6 stats for a lot of contemporary weapons as well. I believe it was the Kanawa Personal Weapons Catalog.

I have material that might be of use if I get time to transcribe and upload (modern weapon stats, ammunition variations for slug throwers, and a lot more...all in glorious handwritten, spiral-bound format).
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[garhkal]

[Mamatried]

Anatomy Traning

Couls this not be used to trade skill for damage, maybe upto +3D or +4D
meaning AFTER adding up any bonuses from the targeting systems, skills, specializations etc etc, then have the ability to make one attack but to keep with the SWD6 rules to an extent, allow to reduce the skill roll with XD, and on a hit deal XD added Damage.

or you caoul simply sactifice 2D (or 1D) to have an attack that on a hot delas ONE CONDITION higher damage.
The latter I think describest the bear scene, the terminator can make a "pin point" strike that deal more deadly damage, it need not deal more, it just move the condition up one. basically a "stunned" statu would be "wounded" etc etc

[KageRyu]

[Mamatried]