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PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2018 2:07 am    Post subject: Where does "Obi-wan" Come From? Reply with quote

What I mean to say, is where do those Jedi names come from? Do they signify anything?

Obi-wan Kenobi

Qui-gon Jinn

Ulic Qel-Droma
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2018 2:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not sure about Ulic, but as for the hyphenated first names, I think that might be a native-born Coruscanti thing.

(Yeah, Stewjon might be the official homeworld of Obi-Wan Kenobi, but considering that that it was John Stewart who asked George Lucas what Obi-Wan's homeworld was, I suspect the Flanneled One was having a bit of fun at his expense, official answer or no.)
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2018 7:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Where does "Obi-wan" Come From? Reply with quote

Wajeb Deb Kaadeb wrote:
What I mean to say, is where do those Jedi names come from? Do they signify anything?

Obi-wan Kenobi

Qui-gon Jinn

Qi-gong is Chinese for "life force," and jinn is Arabic for "genie" or "tutelary spirit."


I hear that in the 1930s there was a Club Obi-Wan in Shanghai, China.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2018 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suspect, but I can be totally wrong here, that Obi-Wan came from his parents?
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2018 7:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mamatried wrote:
I suspect, but I can be totally wrong here, that Obi-Wan came from his parents?


His name is Ben. Obi-wan is a strange nickname.

It feels to me as if it is an earned title, somehow.



EDIT: I found this on the net. Don't know how canonical it is...

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When Obi-Wan goes undercover, his codename is Ben. ... He went by "Ben" because in the book 'Kenobi' he says he chose the name Ben because it was something Satine Kryze called him, and that he liked it because it was something personal.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2018 10:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wajeb Deb Kaadeb wrote:
Mamatried wrote:
I suspect, but I can be totally wrong here, that Obi-Wan came from his parents?


His name is Ben. Obi-wan is a strange nickname.

It feels to me as if it is an earned title, somehow.



EDIT: I found this on the net. Don't know how canonical it is...

Quote:
When Obi-Wan goes undercover, his codename is Ben. ... He went by "Ben" because in the book 'Kenobi' he says he chose the name Ben because it was something Satine Kryze called him, and that he liked it because it was something personal.


PFFT. Everyone knows that "Ben" or "Obi-Wan" are cover stories. He's actually OB-1, an early Kaminoan Clone, doped with midichlorians to infiltrate the Jedi Order.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2018 1:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Where does "Obi-wan" Come From? Reply with quote

Wajeb Deb Kaadeb wrote:
What I mean to say, is where do those Jedi names come from? Do they signify anything?

Obi-wan Kenobi

Qui-gon Jinn

Ulic Qel-Droma


An obi is a belt or sash worn in some Japanese traditional garments, including, I believe, in kendo.

Given the influence of jitai geki and chanbara on the OT, I think it's reasonable to expect that his name derives at least in part from that. Put another way, if Lucas was casting about for "vaguely Japanese-reminiscent names," it's reasonable that he'd, say, look at a samurai outfit and start looking at the words for the different components in it. Plus, "Hakama Kenobi" would be too on the nose. Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2018 3:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wajeb Deb Kaadeb wrote:
Mamatried wrote:
I suspect, but I can be totally wrong here, that Obi-Wan came from his parents?


His name is Ben. Obi-wan is a strange nickname.

It feels to me as if it is an earned title, somehow.



EDIT: I found this on the net. Don't know how canonical it is...

Quote:
When Obi-Wan goes undercover, his codename is Ben. ... He went by "Ben" because in the book 'Kenobi' he says he chose the name Ben because it was something Satine Kryze called him, and that he liked it because it was something personal.



I thought his name was obi wan, but his nickname after order 66 was ben

Where does it state they are both nicknames and he is undercover john doe?
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