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		| Bradwardine Sub-Lieutenant
 
  
  
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				|  Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 8:21 pm    Post subject: How does one roll Brawling against an unresisting opponent? |   |  
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				| A blaster shot is rolled against the range difficulty number. A vibroblade slash is rolled against its own weapon difficulty rating. Everything adds  the target's defensive skill roll to the difficulty, or substitutes it for said difficulty. A Brawling apparently has no difficulty number to hit if the target of the blow declines to roll Brawling Parry. 
 (My source is the pure Second Edition rulebook.)
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		| Telsij Captain
 
  
  
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				|  Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 8:40 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Base brawling difficulty is Very Easy! 
 Looks like that's on... pg 89 of 2E Revised & Expanded, but I vaguely recall seeing that somewhere in my good old 2E "blue book" as well... maybe.
 
 If I track down the chapter and verse from that edition, will update!
 
 EDIT: Annnnd it looks like that may have been first stated out right in 2E R&E!
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		| Bradwardine Sub-Lieutenant
 
  
  
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				|  Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 9:06 pm    Post subject: I appreciate that prompt reply, sir. |   |  
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				| I am speechless. The game designers omitted that detail as long as that? (I have supposed that it was presumed that brawling parry would always be rolled as a matter of course. Not necessarily by any character played by me; I believe in the saying, "The best defense is a good offense.") _________________
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		| Whill Dark Lord of the Jedi (Owner/Admin)
 
  
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				|  Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 9:30 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| The Second Edition Rules Upgrade does acknowledge this not being stated in the blue Vader book: 
 Clarification: Brawling has a difficulty of Very Easy unless the target parries.I can't say this has ever happened, but if an character being attacked is mapped out and can't mechanically parry, I would go by RAW and let the attacker try the Very Easy roll.  But if a character is truly not resisting and willfully allowing himself to be punched, I would probably just say the attack is an automatic hit and only make the attacker roll a wild die to see if there is a complication. _________________
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		| garhkal Sovereign Protector
 
  
  
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				|  Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 11:33 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				|  	  | Whill wrote: |  	  | The Second Edition Rules Upgrade does acknowledge this not being stated in the blue Vader book: 
 Clarification: Brawling has a difficulty of Very Easy unless the target parries.I can't say this has ever happened, but if an character being attacked is mapped out and can't mechanically parry, I would go by RAW and let the attacker try the Very Easy roll.  But if a character is truly not resisting and willfully allowing himself to be punched, I would probably just say the attack is an automatic hit and only make the attacker roll a wild die to see if there is a complication. | 
 
 The ONLY times i have ever had an upopposed brawl roll against someone, was when the attack came from surprise..
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				|  Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:40 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Well, if they were really unarmed, then they must have been slashed by a jedi with a lightsaber!!    _________________
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				|  Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 4:10 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Well, at least they were not un-legged! 8) _________________
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				|  Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:54 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				|  	  | Whill wrote: |  	  | The Second Edition Rules Upgrade does acknowledge this not being stated in the blue Vader book: 
 Clarification: Brawling has a difficulty of Very Easy unless the target parries. | 
 
 Reminds me a bit of this famous moment from DC Comics, as an example
 
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