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PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2019 1:24 pm    Post subject: The Rise of Skywalker (second speculation thread) Reply with quote

Episode IX – Teaser

Please post The Rise of Skywalker memes in the Meme thread!



The first "Episode IX" speculation thread

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The Rise of Skywalker, The Sequel Trilogy, and The Skywalker Saga

The Rise of Skywalker (first post-release thread).
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2019 1:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, it looks like Star Wars...
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2019 1:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess NO ONE is ever really gone.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2019 2:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm happy to see Lando back in the pilot's seat. It's a small thing, but, well, he finally has L337 back, in her own way. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2019 3:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, First Order TIE Fighter, and now First Order TIE Interceptor...

Maybe there's something to EC Henry's First Order TIE Bomber after all...

I'd certainly prefer updated variants of the B-Wing and Y-Wing to the silly bombers in TLJ.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2019 3:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm tentatively optimistic. I really hope JJ can stick the landing, although I'll settle for merely not leaving me feeling like it's just a retread of ROTJ.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2019 3:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I liked it. Disney has been very good at trailers. I even loved the TLJ trailer, though I hated the movie.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2019 3:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Solo4114 wrote:
I'm tentatively optimistic. I really hope JJ can stick the landing, although I'll settle for merely not leaving me feeling like it's just a retread of ROTJ.


I try not to worry about it anymore. I pretty much view the trilogies as 3 completely if unofficially different continuities now.

Rey looks like she's finally a "real" action hero and totally awesome. So here's to 30 years of radio silence from her till Disney decides to bring her back to "pass the torch" Sad
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2019 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CRMcNeill wrote:
I'd certainly prefer updated variants of the B-Wing and Y-Wing to the silly bombers in TLJ.

Exactly!

Zulgyan wrote:
I liked it. Disney has been very good at trailers. I even loved the TLJ trailer, though I hated the movie.

Disney has been very good at trailers, but making good trailers is much easier than making good movies. Not just for Star Wars. In general too. Bad movies can have good trailers, but good movies almost never have bad trailers. If a trailer can't make a movie look good, then it is almost certain the movie isn't good. But unfortunately trailers can still mislead, so there are no guarantees.

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Solo4114 wrote:
I'm tentatively optimistic. I really hope JJ can stick the landing

I try not to worry about it anymore. I pretty much view the trilogies as 3 completely if unofficially different continuities now.

That can be a healthy point of view to maximize any possible enjoyment you can get out of the trilogies. But personally I enjoy the challenge of making solutions for the discontinuities of the the first two trilogies. They inspire my game world. The jury is still out on the ST. After TLJ I'm willing to just cast it out to another universe if need be, pending TRoS.

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Rey looks like she's finally a "real" action hero and totally awesome.

Really? I thought Rey looked rather emaciated, a little more than usual. But yeah the jump over the ship looked awesome if that's what you mean.

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So here's to 30 years of radio silence from her till Disney decides to bring her back to "pass the torch" Sad

Right. After 20-30 years of fans complaining about the new unrelated Star Wars trilogies we are going to get, then people will be clamoring for a continuation of the Skywalker Saga. The past always looks better through nostalgia goggles.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Lando Reply with quote



Ray wrote:
I'm happy to see Lando back in the pilot's seat. It's a small thing, but, well, he finally has L337 back, in her own way. Very Happy

Yep! Lando with Chewie at his side, for the first time since the end of TESB.

I'm still kinda disgruntled that they couldn't find a role for Lando before now (He could have had a cameo on the casino planet where Finn and Rose bump into him during a con but don't realize who he is, and maybe Lando points them in the right direction). When Abrams and Johnson said they couldn't find a way to work him into the first two films, I view that as lazy. They just didn't try very hard.

But hey, better late then never!


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2019 12:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I'm happy to see Lando back. Seeing him piloting the Falcon with such unadulterated joy is very heartwarming after the events of Solo, even if Han was right that the Falcon belonged with him instead. I wonder if we'll get a scene of Lando appreciating just how much had to happen in order to get the Falcon back.

I second the motion to have updated Y- and B-wings instead of the silly TLJ bombers.

As for Solo4114's concern about TRoS possibly being a retread of RotJ, I'm also hoping this is not the case since that was one of my major beefs with TFA. Seeing the debris of the Death Star (in an ocean, no less; where the hell was that?) was a "WTF how did THAT happen?" moment as I watched the trailer, but with a few minutes' retrospection, I'm wondering if it's a sign that TRoS might be a retread of certain RotJ themes after all.

And now I have to ask the question: How can a movie titled "The Rise of Skywalker" purport to end the Skywalker saga? I guess we'll have to wait until December to find out.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2019 12:05 am    Post subject: Palpatine and The Rise of the Sith Reply with quote

griff wrote:
I guess NO ONE is ever really gone.
CRMcNeill wrote:
Well, it looks like Star Wars...

It SOUNDS like Star Wars too...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxxOlP0L5Pc

I know Friday nights tend to be slow here, but I'm surprised no one else but griff and I are talking about this so far. From what I've been able to gather today while working overtime and taking my son out to dinner, the internet has been absolutely blowing up over Palpatine in the trailer. Star Wars Celebration is going on right now in Chicago, and the teaser trailer was shown first there during an Episode IX panel. Immediately after the trailer Ian McDiarmid walked out and, in character as Emperor Palpatine, demanded the trailer to be played again. His laugh isn't just in the trailer for effect.

The reveal was that Ian McDiarmid is in some way involved in the production of Episode IX.

Will he just be in a hologram? Has Palpatine somehow returned from the dead? If so, will be be a Force Spirit? Cloned body like in Dark Empire? Will his spirit be part of another character like Baron Harkonnen in Alia Atreides? Or did he never really die? Ever since I was a teen watching the RotJ VHS, I've thought I heard Palpatine laughing when the blast of energy comes up the shaft that Anakin threw him down. In a Starlog magazine interview back then, Lucas was asked about that and he just said you'd have to ask Ben Burtt.

Abrams has stated that Episode IX will tie all three trilogies together. The trailer further reinforces my fan theory that Rey is the reincarnation of Anakin Skywalker (who was also reincarnated). Rey has the repaired Skywalker lightsaber. Luke's green lightsaber was nowhere to be found in TLJ but the one that had been his father's and was broken is still very important. Luke's voice indicated Rey is the culmination of a thousand generation of Jedi. Anakin was the Chosen One who was to destroy the Sith. As of completing RotS, Lucas felt Anakin fulfilled that prophecy in RotJ. Luke mentioned Darth Sidious in TLJ, but now Palpatine's back? Why bring him back unless it were so the Skywalker can fulfill the prophecy and destroy the Sith, this time for good (or until the next Skywalker Saga Trilogy).

Solo4114 wrote:
I'm tentatively optimistic.

I winced when I first heard Palpatine laughing. My knee jerk reactions were some stupid resurrection like Palpatine and Boba Fett in Dark Empire, and that by un-destroying the Sith they are undoing the accomplishment of the Jedi who returned in RotJ to destroy him.

But I want to be optimistic too and give the film a chance. Maybe it will be cool. Since Palpatine's back, it would help the last two films if Snoke really was Palpatine's master Darth Plagueis whose death somehow allows Palpatine's return, which means Snoke will really be dead and stay dead. At this point a hokey and contrived Palpatine resurrection could be way cooler than Barf Hideous!

Solo4114 wrote:
I really hope JJ can stick the landing, although I'll settle for merely not leaving me feeling like it's just a retread of ROTJ.

I hope for a movie better than TFA, but I'll settle for a movie better than TLJ.

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How can a movie titled "The Rise of Skywalker" purport to end the Skywalker saga? I guess we'll have to wait until December to find out.

If this trilogy paints the Skywalker Saga as the story of how the Skywalker rose (whatever that means), then the movie can be the end of the Saga.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2019 12:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

CRMcNeill wrote:
So, First Order TIE Fighter, and now First Order TIE Interceptor...

Maybe there's something to EC Henry's First Order TIE Bomber after all...

I'd certainly prefer updated variants of the B-Wing and Y-Wing to the silly bombers in TLJ.


I remember seeing a pair of Y-s fighting over Dark star base, and even an A-wing on the ground. BUT not one B-wing so far..

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Really? I thought Rey looked rather emaciated, a little more than usual. But yeah the jump over the ship looked awesome if that's what you mean.


BUT why would the interceptor be trying to ram her??

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I'm still kinda disgruntled that they couldn't find a role for Lando before now (He could have had a cameo on the casino planet where Finn and Rose bump into him during a con but don't realize who he is, and maybe Lando points them in the right direction). When Abrams and Johnson said they couldn't find a way to work him into the first two films, I view that as lazy. They just didn't try very hard.


I agree. It was pure laziness that they didn't include lando.

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As for Solo4114's concern about TRoS possibly being a retread of RotJ, I'm also hoping this is not the case since that was one of my major beefs with TFA. Seeing the debris of the Death Star (in an ocean, no less; where the hell was that?) was a "WTF how did THAT happen?" moment as I watched the trailer, but with a few minutes' retrospection, I'm wondering if it's a sign that TRoS might be a retread of certain RotJ themes after all.


Maybe its on Yavin??
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2019 12:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's endor remember when death star 2 blew up there was a big piece coming down. That piece is embedded with the dark spirit of the emperor. The emperor t I think sill be a force ghost. I feel this movie will feel more like an Indiana Jones with everyone weathering for something, or being call to the piece of death star and I also think a resurrection of Anakin to finally destroy the emperor's dark spirit.
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https://rapida.co/us/wp-content/uploads/sites/5/2019/04/Star-Wars-The-Rise-of-Skywalker-Trailer-Death-Star-743x372.jpg

griff wrote:
It's endor remember when death star 2 blew up there was a big piece coming down. That piece is embedded with the dark spirit of the emperor. The emperor t I think sill be a force ghost. I feel this movie will feel more like an Indiana Jones with everyone weathering for something, or being call to the piece of death star and I also think a resurrection of Anakin to finally destroy the emperor's dark spirit.

That makes a lot of sense to me...

Sutehp wrote:
Seeing the debris of the Death Star (in an ocean, no less; where the hell was that?) was a "WTF how did THAT happen?" moment as I watched the trailer, but with a few minutes' retrospection, I'm wondering if it's a sign that TRoS might be a retread of certain RotJ themes after all.

https://www.tor.com/2019/04/12/that-death-star-wreckage-in-star-wars-episode-ix-is-probably-the-first-death-star/

...but according to this guy's analysis, it's wreckage of the first Death Star. If so, then it could be Yavin IV or another one of Yavin's moons. Yavin IV isn't necessarily all jungle with no bodies of water anywhere on the planet. The ancient temples on Yavin IV could have have something to do with the Jedi, Sith, Whills, etc. Plus the first Death Star has been central to the plots of two Star Wars films, one of those being a Disney film (and it appeared in RotS). And TFA, Abrams first Star Wars film, is a reprise of ANH. Another clue is the medal from ANH.


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