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PostPosted: Fri Oct 25, 2019 9:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The size of the pieces matters a lot too. A 1 ton asteroid is much more dangerous than 32,000 ounce sized asteroids, because of the ratios of surface area to mass. One big object won't completely burn up in the atmosphere, lots of little ones will. So the Death Star debris would presumably be far less dangerous than that mostly intact Star Destroyer from Episode 7.

I hated that movie where they said blowing up the rock before if collided with the earth would turn 1 dangerous object into many. Doing that, would save the earth from a serious collision, not spread out an equal amount of damage.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 26, 2019 11:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The size of the pieces matters a lot too. A 1 ton asteroid is much more dangerous than 32,000 ounce sized asteroids, because of the ratios of surface area to mass. One big object won't completely burn up in the atmosphere, lots of little ones will. So the Death Star debris would presumably be far less dangerous than that mostly intact Star Destroyer from Episode 7.

Indeed, size matters.



That's a hunk a hunk a Death Star wreckage larger than a star destroyer. That in an uncontrolled collision would be cataclysmic to Earth or Endor.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Perhaps that's why there is no more ewoks!! Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 5:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Perhaps that's why there is no more ewoks!! Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad

Ha. If the Ewok population was decimated by an epic cataclysm, then the moon sure recovered quickly, because 30-some years later it seems like a lovely place to visit.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 5:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A possible twist on the "Alliance Fleet uses shields and tractor beams to defend Endor from the Death Star debris" could be that, while some of the larger pieces were too big to be completely deflected, they could have had their descent at least slowed by tractor beams such that the impact on Endor wouldn't be catastrophic. This might include deliberately guiding wreckage into bodies of water in order to further cushion the impact.

Not that I don't think the whole thing is silly, but...
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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had their descent at least slowed by tractor beams such that the impact on Endor wouldn't be catastrophic. This might include deliberately guiding wreckage into bodies of water in order to further cushion the impact.


That's what I would think.

Also Endor's just one moon, not even a planet. That piece could have been sucked into the gravity of a larger (possibly uninhabited) body in the system.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Did a fleet of ships on both planets tractor the debris into a controlled decent?

CRMcNeill wrote:
A possible twist on the "Alliance Fleet uses shields and tractor beams to defend Endor from the Death Star debris" could be that, while some of the larger pieces were too big to be completely deflected, they could have had their descent at least slowed by tractor beams such that the impact on Endor wouldn't be catastrophic. This might include deliberately guiding wreckage into bodies of water in order to further cushion the impact.

In light of the trailers, that is exactly my interpretation of what the canon info shard by Darklighter79 meant. The "Endor Holocaust" referenced by my Ulton joke was before Darklighter shared that, but then was still replied to TauntaunScout and garhkal after Darklighter's post. I think the Battle of Jakku was detailed in the final Aftermath book, so maybe someone who read that book can tell us how all that large wreckage crashed with a cataclysm.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TauntaunScout wrote:
That piece could have been sucked into the gravity of a larger (possibly uninhabited) body in the system.

True. I believe that was mentioned earlier in this thread or another thread.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 6:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Regarding Jakku's junkyard. We do not see huge cannons/craters there. All the crashed ships are still visible on surface (partially buried due do sandstorms)
So maybe they did not hit the surface hard but rather crash landed on the failing repulsor drives? Just like it is presented here:

Free falling*

*Considered cannon?

With DSII, well maybe the combined power of all fleet's tractor beams did manage to slow down the huge debris and direct it to the ocean, so the damage would be minimal?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 05, 2019 12:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone rewatching the films before TRoS?

Since TRoS has been billed as a fitting conclusion to the entire series, we are watching them all. I thought Rogue One and Solo might not be required viewing, but Rogue One is so awesome, and in the TRoS trailer Lando seems to be wearing a yellow shirt like the one he had in Solo, so maybe their is some connection of Solo to TRoS. So I thought, let's just watch them all.

So far we have watched Episodes I and II. TPM has a brilliantly constructed final battle/climax. I love it. AotC reminds me that Lucas really is a genius at directing action scenes. My mind sort of wanders during the cringeworthy love story, but at least it is the one movie where Padme is hot. Unlike TPM, the climax of AotC was sadly chopped up and diminished.*

Anyway, if you are going to get through them all before TRoS and haven't started, at this point you'll have to watch 1 or 2 a week to get them all in. This is really the first time I have ever wanted to watch TLJ again since watching it after first getting it on Blu-ray.


*Edit: An obscure AotC character gets stats and a detailed background here.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 05, 2019 1:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I intend to watch them all, though I have yet to purchase Rogue One, Solo and The Last Jedi. I watched Rogue One and Solo a few weeks ago, so I may just focus on the Skywalker Saga films. Last I looked, The Last Jedi was still on Netflix, so maybe I can dodge purchasing it until it's cheaper around Christmas.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 10:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only movies I rewatch are the OT and Rogue One. I have dabbled in watching parts of the sequels and Solo but never finish them, on Netflix, which eventually stops streaming them. I don't plan on owning them.

I am having issues watching the OT though. My DVD's from like 2005ish that didn't include the CGI scenes, don't seem to play nicely with my new TV and/or disc player. It squishes the image down, unless I put it on "cinema zoom" or some such setting, in which case it cuts off the subtitles. These DVD's seem to hate the subtitles too for some reason, and require extensive fiddling about with settings. Left to their own devices, they won't put up the subtitles for Greedo and Jabba that normally appear in theaters.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 8:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TauntaunScout wrote:
I am having issues watching the OT though. My DVD's from like 2005ish that didn't include the CGI scenes, don't seem to play nicely with my new TV and/or disc player. It squishes the image down, unless I put it on "cinema zoom" or some such setting, in which case it cuts off the subtitles. These DVD's seem to hate the subtitles too for some reason, and require extensive fiddling about with settings. Left to their own devices, they won't put up the subtitles for Greedo and Jabba that normally appear in theaters.

I've run into similar problems with older DVDs. It's quite annoying. And it irks me that at some point in my 24th century Star Trek viewing (DS9 and Voyager), the Netflix episodes started appearing stretched on my TV, and when I fiddle with the settings I can't get it to look normal. These aren't even DVDs but obviously still weren't formatted for modern TVs. They should reformat those.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 08, 2019 9:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Rambo 3PO" is no longer a matter of spoilerisms. My kids got an activity pack at AC Moore the other day and he appears in it, in sticker form. Not sure if anyone else already reported on him appearing in an official source yet.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 1:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RyanDarkstar wrote:
I intend to watch them all, though I have yet to purchase Rogue One, Solo and The Last Jedi. I watched Rogue One and Solo a few weeks ago, so I may just focus on the Skywalker Saga films. Last I looked, The Last Jedi was still on Netflix, so maybe I can dodge purchasing it until it's cheaper around Christmas.

Yes, TLJ is on Netflix now, and I believe it will be there through Christmas. TLJ starts on Disney+ Dec 26th (after TRoS is released in theaters).

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Anyone rewatching the films before TRoS?

Since TRoS has been billed as a fitting conclusion to the entire series, we are watching them all.

To catch up here, we have watched RotS, Solo and RO. RotS has great action and beautiful music, despite having more cringey love story and a poor performance from Hayden Christensen. I really enjoy seeing the rise of the Empire. Solo is a very entertaining adventure, a lot of fun. Rogue One is the most awesome movie ever made where all the main protagonists die in the end. It's a blast.

RotS includes the cryptic Palpatine line "To cheat death is a power only one has achieved..." It's not explicit in the film who is referring to, but it was later revealed in the film that Qui-Gon has returned as a Force Ghost. That could be who Palpatine was referring to, but that begs the question, How would Palpatine even know about that? I think we may get an answer to who the "one" is in TRoS as part of the explanation for how Palpatine cheated death himself.
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