Pathfinder/Starfinder

[Whill]

Last I heard, the top three selling RPGs are D&D, Pathfinder, and FFG Star Wars (which seems to be on a hiatus). I do not own Pathfinder and I've never played it. I've read that Pathfinder 1e was a d20 OGL fantasy game and unofficially D&D 3.75. I presume Starfinder is a science fantasy game compatible with Pathfinder 1e. I guess there is now Pathfinder 2e but I do not know if this is still d20, or it technically is but they have evolved the game system in ways that D&D hasn't, or if it is a whole new game system.

Does anyone know anything about these games? Are they good? What can you tell us about the book production value, game system, and setting? I'm curious.
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[Ray]

Trying out Starfinder now. It's pretty much Pathfinder... IN SPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACE!!!
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I played in multiple D&D 3.0 and 3.5 campaigns, and overall I hated them. I played fighters and the game was still way too crunchy. I only played because I was friends with everyone in the group.
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[Whill]

Despite not getting much feedback on the game, I just went ahead and ordered a copy of the Starfinder Core Rulebook (pocket edition) because it got down to $18.17 (new, with free shipping). It's got some cool artwork in it.
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[The Brain]

oh I recall flipping through a copy of starfinder and noticed it has 20 LEVELS OF LASER PISTOLS! Rap your brain around that. Instead of trying to vcome with a game mechanic to handle hit point creep Piazo was just "Screw it lets just make 20 experience level appropriate versions of every ranged weapon."

On top of that their modern firearms are actually less effective against archaic armor than the black powder firearms in Pathfinder.
So ya after that skim and trying out an organized play session were I was looking for something for my techie class PC to do during the space craft battle. I asked could I jam our opponent's sensors and told yes, BUUTTTT....my PC's exp lvl wasn't high enough.
And so my brief interest in Starfinder ended. D20 Scifi has been done way better.
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[Whill]

Thanks for the feedback, Brain. Yeah, I didn't find any inspiration in Starfinder's game system or stats. It really helped with fluff for an insectile species I am creating, and it does have some great art. It's still the only Pathfinder-related product I have, and probably ever will have. I have tons of D&D stuff and I'll probably never play those games again. I doubt I'd ever play Pathfinder/Starfinder, but who knows? Never say never.
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[Sutehp]

I haven't played Starfinder, but I find its fluff interesting.

I played Pathfinder for about a year before the COVID pandemic forced me to stop. I enjoyed playing a cleric thoroughly, but I've shifted my attention to Star Trek Adventures and Dune: Adventures in the Imperium (both by Modiphius) since then. Not that I'm in an actual group for either of them, I just enjoy reading the fluff (for now).
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