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Crell Damar Line Captain
Joined: 31 Jul 2003 Posts: 845
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Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2003 6:46 pm Post subject: |
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swoop doesn't have 5,000 meter altitude either |
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Son of Fire Captain
Joined: 03 Sep 2003 Posts: 554 Location: Rose City Canada
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Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2003 9:32 pm Post subject: |
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Depends on what kinda swoop you got. _________________ "My schooling not only failed to teach me what it professed to be teaching, but prevented me from being educated to an extent which infuriates me when I think of all I might have learned at home by myself." - George Bernard Shaw |
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Icebrand Cadet
Joined: 22 Oct 2003 Posts: 14 Location: Buenos Aires, Argentina
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Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2003 1:42 pm Post subject: |
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Our house rule is:
Jetpack, Rocket Pack, RepulsorPack, and Powersuit Ops are one skill (call it what you want) with those specializations. _________________ Be my blind
Be it, all the time
Be it, night or day
Take my sun away, away... |
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Ragnar Commander
Joined: 11 Sep 2003 Posts: 371 Location: Vacaville, CA
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Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2003 2:45 pm Post subject: |
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that doesn't seem very fair, but it's your rule not mine. |
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Volar the Healer Jedi
Joined: 04 Aug 2003 Posts: 664 Location: Arizona, USA
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Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2003 3:37 pm Post subject: |
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Icebrand wrote: | Our house rule is:
Jetpack, Rocket Pack, RepulsorPack, and Powersuit Ops are one skill (call it what you want) with those specializations. |
I'd disagree.
But one of the things I like about WEG's Star Wars RPG is it's easily adjustable to the wishes of the players. Every group has their house rules (ours included) that represent how the group sees the Star Wars universe.
Can't do that with that "other" pathetic attempt at an RPG.
Death to d20! _________________ Know Jesus, Know Peace.
No Jesus, No Peace |
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Rathe Ehtar Commander
Joined: 11 Oct 2003 Posts: 440 Location: Vacaville, CA
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Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2003 1:52 pm Post subject: |
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Icebrand wrote
Quote: | Our house rule is:
Jetpack, Rocket Pack, RepulsorPack, and Powersuit Ops are one skill |
RepulsorPack to repulsorlift operation, Powersuid Ops to its own skill.
Jetpack and Rocket Pack, well, they can be the same skill.
So many powersuits out there that it has to be its own skill. _________________ "I don't know about angels, but it's fear that gives men wings." -Max Payne
"I don't buy that cluck like a dog, bark like a chicken stuff." -Col. Jack O'Neill |
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Crell Damar Line Captain
Joined: 31 Jul 2003 Posts: 845
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Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2003 2:14 pm Post subject: |
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i haven't ever seen an item that uses repulsorpack skill... _________________ "For over a thousand generations, the Jedi Knights were the guardians of peace and justice in the Old Republic. Before the dark times... before the Empire. "
Obi-Wan Kenobi |
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Rathe Ehtar Commander
Joined: 11 Oct 2003 Posts: 440 Location: Vacaville, CA
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Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2003 2:16 pm Post subject: |
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because all repulsorlifts are covered in one skill. Repulsorlift operation. _________________ "I don't know about angels, but it's fear that gives men wings." -Max Payne
"I don't buy that cluck like a dog, bark like a chicken stuff." -Col. Jack O'Neill |
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Crell Damar Line Captain
Joined: 31 Jul 2003 Posts: 845
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Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2003 3:18 pm Post subject: |
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that's what i thought, but i agree that jetpack and rocketpack could be put together _________________ "For over a thousand generations, the Jedi Knights were the guardians of peace and justice in the Old Republic. Before the dark times... before the Empire. "
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garhkal Sovereign Protector
Joined: 17 Jul 2005 Posts: 14088 Location: Reynoldsburg, Columbus, Ohio.
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Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2005 6:03 am Post subject: |
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While i can understand the seperation they made, i do see your argument for combining them. In a different post, someone made the argument to combine them along with powersuit operations as well, now that one i cannot agree with. _________________ Confucious sayeth, don't wash cat while drunk! |
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Dan Solo Ensign
Joined: 20 Sep 2005 Posts: 42
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Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2005 2:01 am Post subject: |
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Rathe Ehtar wrote: | because all repulsorlifts are covered in one skill. Repulsorlift operation. |
Which I think is kind of weird. An airspeeder seems to be nothing like a landspeeder, esp. for the ones we've seen in the WEG era. Also, swoops are repulsorcraft, and they have a separate skill. But this is probably other-thread material. |
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Boomer Captain
Joined: 14 Jul 2005 Posts: 688 Location: Terra Sol
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Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2005 4:27 pm Post subject: |
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Jet pack not only requires an atmosphere, but it is almost implied it is for planetary use. Your are not only dealing with an entirely diffrent form of constant thrust, but it is indeed also meant for an entirely diffrent environment.
Rocket-packs work in small bursts, not a constant intake and output (which the jet-pack calls bursts, yet it can last for a few minutes... a few minutes is not what most people view as a burst.)
Rocket-pack explosive thrust not only requires no atmosphere, but it is meant for space, 0gravity. You have rockets pointing in more directions for more manuverability along a three dimensional plane upon which you should be able to move the same speed in any direction.
The jet-pack is working against gravity. Intakes on top, big thrusters on bottom, it blasts downward and force propels you upward, while secondary vents, or fins, or nozzles, or just plain leaning forward provides the rest of the momentum.
The rocket pack, many have the large thrusters, but that is for distance travel, not manuvers. There are many more nozzles all around the rocket-pack for it's main function, 0g, 360 degree, 3 dimensional motion and manuvers unhindered by a force funneling you in a specific direction. _________________ My backpack has jets!
I'm Boba the Fett!
And I bounty hunt for Jabba Hutt,
to finance my 'vette! |
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KageRyu Commodore
Joined: 06 Jul 2005 Posts: 1391 Location: Lost in the cracks
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Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 6:43 pm Post subject: |
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Boomer pretty much pegged it right on the head. I am certain there are different makes, models, designs of both Jetpacks and Rocketpacks, some bigger and bulkier than others, but the way they function is entirely different. Specializations of thes skills should be for a particular model, or terrain of use, etc...
As for Repulsorlifts, I can see the argument that an airspeeder is vastly different from a landspeeder or a skiff. Perhaps the GM could create a seperate skill for Airspeeder Ops, and this would include Airspeeders, cloud cars, and possibly old prop-driven aircraft.
But, on that same argument, a Landspeeder would not be much different from a car, except for mode of propulsion, and therefor you could roll cars and trucks into landspeeder...
So many possible skill changes. _________________ "There's a set way to gain new Force Points and it represents a very nice system, where you're rewarded for heroism, not for being a poor conductor to electricity." ~Jachra |
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garhkal Sovereign Protector
Joined: 17 Jul 2005 Posts: 14088 Location: Reynoldsburg, Columbus, Ohio.
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Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 6:51 am Post subject: |
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Well, cars and trucks would go under the ground vehicle ops skill. _________________ Confucious sayeth, don't wash cat while drunk! |
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TarlSS Sub-Lieutenant
Joined: 19 Aug 2005 Posts: 60
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Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2005 12:55 am Post subject: |
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Yeah. I think Repulsorbelts, Jetpacks and Rocketpacks honestly should fall under the same skillset. But if you want to get official, I think Repulsorbelts would fall under Jetpack operation, since they only work in places with gravity, while the thing about rocketpacks is they work everywhere, including deepspace. You should definitely be able to use a repulsorbelt wherever you can use a jetpack, since anybody that can hold an atmosphere pretty much must have gravity to well..hold it. |
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