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Tupteq Commander


Joined: 11 Apr 2007 Posts: 285 Location: Rzeszów, Poland
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Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 8:46 am Post subject: |
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We are using -1D (or more) untrained modifier (instead of +5), it is similar to present untrained modifiers (-2D for use swoop without skill and possibly some more) and matches to untrained modifier in D6 Space. In some situations it does apply, in other not. We usually use a common sense to determine when to apply it. |
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Esoomian High Admiral


Joined: 29 Oct 2003 Posts: 6207 Location: Auckland, New Zealand
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Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 6:20 pm Post subject: |
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So would you give a verpine just +1D on technical skills thay had not trained in (+2D -1D)? _________________ Don't waste money on expensive binoculars.
Simply stand closer to the object you wish to view. |
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Tupteq Commander


Joined: 11 Apr 2007 Posts: 285 Location: Rzeszów, Poland
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Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 6:21 am Post subject: |
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Esoomian wrote: | So would you give a verpine just +1D on technical skills thay had not trained in (+2D -1D)? |
Not exactly. +2D to all tech skills is very powerful, so to cripple it a little bit this bonus doesn't apply when plain TECH is used (untrained skills). Which means that verpine rolls just TECH-1D in such situations. |
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Esoomian High Admiral


Joined: 29 Oct 2003 Posts: 6207 Location: Auckland, New Zealand
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Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 7:02 am Post subject: |
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Yeah that makes more sense although I'm not sure if I prefer +5 difficulty or -1D _________________ Don't waste money on expensive binoculars.
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Ankhanu Vice Admiral


Joined: 13 Oct 2006 Posts: 3089 Location: Nova Scotia, Canada
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Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 7:17 am Post subject: |
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I like +5 difficulty myself. -1D, while mechanically similar, takes away the idea of "natural aptitude" the attribute levels are intended to represent in an effort you've never tried before. Taking 1D off of that kind of goes along the idea of your attribute core being an ideal concept of your natural aptitude that you can't quite attain  |
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vong Jedi

Joined: 30 Aug 2006 Posts: 6699 Location: Ottawa, Canada
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Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 8:00 am Post subject: |
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its funny, my players like rolling lots of dice. so they would prefer to up the difficulty rather then lose dice. _________________ The Vong have Arrived
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awfulalex Commander


Joined: 03 Aug 2007 Posts: 303 Location: South Africa
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Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 9:21 am Post subject: |
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vong wrote: | its funny, my players like rolling lots of dice. so they would prefer to up the difficulty rather then lose dice. |
OH YEAH!
We even keep rolling long after we made the difficulty to see by how much we made it. MORE DICE!!!! _________________ ***witty remark under construction - coming soon to a board near you*** |
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K21DUBIE Lieutenant Commander

Joined: 15 Jun 2007 Posts: 237
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Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 12:29 pm Post subject: |
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I usually up the difficulty, I find that players still put the attempt and plus they like to roll lots of dice don't want to take that enjoyment from them. |
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vong Jedi

Joined: 30 Aug 2006 Posts: 6699 Location: Ottawa, Canada
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Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 12:30 pm Post subject: |
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yea. its hard to do that though when some players are way better then others at things, so its impossible for anyone but that character to do anything. granted in a pbp method its allright, but when you meet, and a player is abscent, the party is SOL  _________________ The Vong have Arrived
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awfulalex Commander


Joined: 03 Aug 2007 Posts: 303 Location: South Africa
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Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 3:46 am Post subject: |
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Tupteq wrote: | Esoomian wrote: | So would you give a verpine just +1D on technical skills thay had not trained in (+2D -1D)? |
Not exactly. +2D to all tech skills is very powerful, so to cripple it a little bit this bonus doesn't apply when plain TECH is used (untrained skills). Which means that verpine rolls just TECH-1D in such situations. |
The problem is you are now using a double standard.
-1D for non-Verpine and basically -3D for Verpine _________________ ***witty remark under construction - coming soon to a board near you*** |
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vong Jedi

Joined: 30 Aug 2006 Posts: 6699 Location: Ottawa, Canada
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Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 2:32 pm Post subject: |
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hmmm, kinda yea. but you can say that verpine are good at what they have been trained at, they pick it up fast, but until they have some training, its the standard rules. _________________ The Vong have Arrived
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Gry Sarth Jedi

Joined: 25 May 2004 Posts: 5304 Location: Sao Paulo - Brazil
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Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 3:05 pm Post subject: |
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I wouldn't advise setting a double standard. You run the risk of breaking the game and overcomplicating things. _________________ "He's Gry Sarth, of course he has the stats for them." |
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vong Jedi

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Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 3:17 pm Post subject: |
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true, some thing the simplest way to go, is the best. _________________ The Vong have Arrived
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Esoomian High Admiral


Joined: 29 Oct 2003 Posts: 6207 Location: Auckland, New Zealand
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Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 6:26 pm Post subject: |
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awfulalex wrote: | Tupteq wrote: | Esoomian wrote: | So would you give a verpine just +1D on technical skills thay had not trained in (+2D -1D)? |
Not exactly. +2D to all tech skills is very powerful, so to cripple it a little bit this bonus doesn't apply when plain TECH is used (untrained skills). Which means that verpine rolls just TECH-1D in such situations. |
The problem is you are now using a double standard.
-1D for non-Verpine and basically -3D for Verpine |
That's not what I was saying at all. It would be -1D for non verpine and +1D for verpine (as -1D + 2D =1D)
Assuming Verpine get their bonus for untrained skills and untrained skills are used at a standard -1D.
However I prefer the +5 to difficulty rather than -1D _________________ Don't waste money on expensive binoculars.
Simply stand closer to the object you wish to view. |
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awfulalex Commander


Joined: 03 Aug 2007 Posts: 303 Location: South Africa
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Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 3:42 am Post subject: |
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Tupteq wrote: | Esoomian wrote: | So would you give a verpine just +1D on technical skills thay had not trained in (+2D -1D)? |
Not exactly. +2D to all tech skills is very powerful, so to cripple it a little bit this bonus doesn't apply when plain TECH is used (untrained skills). Which means that verpine rolls just TECH-1D in such situations. |
Sorry Esoomian I was not refering to your post but to Tupteq. I agree with your app either one would be ok. I would just not set various standards and if I go up diff route I would do it for everyone and every skill.
Keep
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Simple
Stupid _________________ ***witty remark under construction - coming soon to a board near you*** |
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