House Rules: Grenades

[garhkal]

I have done it several times.. Glop grenades, smoke grenades, stun grenades.. Not yet had an enemy use frag grenades in that situation though.
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[Naaman]

I've also always felt that grenades are handled pretty stupidly in D6. Grenade explosions should be HARDER to dodge than blaster shots since they can hit you just by being close. After the roll to "hit" is made to determine where the grenade lands (and any scatter has been resolved, I believe that the grenade itself should have a dodge difficulty based on it's blast radius (perhaps). And the relative success or failure of the dodge roll will reduce the amount of damage you take relative to the max possible damage (10D, in the case of a thermal detonator). For example, let's say that a thermal detonator has a blast difficulty of 20. A defender would roll dodge, and subtract 20 from the roll. Whatever is left is compared to a chart that might look something like this:

0 or less: 10D
1-5: 8D
6-10: 6D
11-15: 4D
16-20: 2D
21 or more: no damage.

This rule would actually work really well with a house rule I wrote for cooking grenades (the +10 difficulty to dodge would be added to the grenade's own difficulty in this case, making it 30, instead of 20).

[jmanski]

How about making the difficulty based on range band, but on the scale of:
Heroic (0-2)
Very Difficult (4)
Difficult (6)
Moderate (10)

That way it is harder to dodge but still manageable, and the GM can add modifiers.
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[Quetzacotl]

Wouldn't that be another "all or nothing" mechanic?
Either you completely avoid the damage, or you get the full damage.

Naaman's idea sounds good, decreasing the damage based on how good the dodge roll was.

[garhkal]

Though his rule does not take into account the move rate of the target.. not all races have a base 10 move..
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[Tupteq]

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[Naaman]

The problem with using move stat to avoid a grenade is that it would require you to adjuticate the amount of time left on the fuse. If there is no time left when the grenade lands, all that matters is how good the dodge roll is. Since "dodge" represents your ability to "dive for cover" (the rules actually articulate something to that effect) using the move stat is, in my opinion, overly techical, unless you want to just add a bonus to dodge based on tthe character's move rate (a move of 11 might provide a +2 bonus, as an example).

But in reality, the farther the target, the sooner you need to throw it. But if you want to gently roll it, or toss it under hand or chuck it into the third story window from accross the street, the timing of the throw will be different. This, in my opinion is covered in the thrower's skill roll, and a scatter result couls simply represent the grenade detonating before reaching, or after passing over a target. So, if it were my call, only the dodge skill would make a difference.

One caveat would be if the defender notices the thrower preparing to throw, he may use Running as a reaction to move toward cover, and perhaps gain a bonus on the dodge roll... but that needs some more thought and development if I were to try and use it.

Just my $0.02

[Naaman]

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[Dromdarr_Alark]

[Naaman]

LOL You corrected my spelling

[garhkal]

[Esoomian]

[Naaman]

Not to mention that all out speed puts them at quadruple their move. I know that all out speed prevents dodging, but the capability to move 32m per round (reduced to a smaller time over smaller distance) could represent the dodge roll. Anyway, however a GM decides to implement it, the important thing is that it is useable and does not detract from the flow of play.

[atgxtg]