How many CPs was Luke awarded on his journey to Alderaan?

[Bren]

[Naaman]

I was just comparing a starting PC to an "ending" PC.

[Naaman]

[Bren]

[Naaman]

But they were strong by comparison to their starting selves, right?

[Bren]

[Mamatried]

My "weak" starting character happens to be in a module adventure where most NPCS are weak..........this doen't make the character less weak.

Now I would love to have 19yr old brash pilot, meet a jedi, speak a little, have him tell a story of my father, show me a lightsaber
train for about three days after seeing the jedi use the lightsaber to maim someone.

and then have 50+Dice to skills and 1-3D extra attribute dice.

Luke according to the rules would have 15D attribues, if he started with 1D in the tree force skills, this would leave him 15D to attributes.....somehow he gained these attributes.......and gained enough skill in the force to actually be able to use it....meaning he at least given the RAW difficulties had to have no less than 4D in the force skills.

this in addition to what ever more than the "mere 7D" he had as a starting character. I would say he would have maybe started with no reduction in attributes and started with 1D in forces skills and about 25 maybe even 50 D skills.......BEFORE he flew to Alderaan.


I make a "weak" character, i encounter weaker NPCS, this doen't make character strong.

The NON HEROIC hero, fights against enemies that simply is nothing, he is no more heroic.......he just fights "nonthings".

So to me the issue is........with 3-5 cp and +1 progression, the game scope is narrowed to "only" pin you non hero that will never be heroic ever, against "nothings".

I dare say even most write ups of anything other than the gunfodder mooks....with one or two attributes and one or two relevant skills, just be shot at, is not a measure of player power.

To me the "Hero" palyer jedi should at least be at par with a "standard named jedi" of the prequal era, after we are taking about HEROES here......when then a mere padawan of the era easily have 3-4D in all three force skills, and skills in the 3-4D above attribute and at least 20-30 D more than the player we are counting up 1000s of CP, something that is 100% unattainable with a 3-5cp average and a +1 pip progression.


I have been thinking of actually keeping the CP cost the same, allowing you to infinately above your attribute, allowing a 2D dex character 15D in Blaster if he want to.........but Allowing +1D progression in skills, giving 30-50cp average for missions.

With a x10 cp reward and keeping the cost as normal, then yes we can get to the levels we see the ones meant to be "less heroic" then put much weaker but (meant to be more heroic) heroes

[Mamatried]

having watched the movies again, read through comics and the like it struck me that what we see the people not heroes of the films, but the people there just doing their thing, seems to easily use weapons and perform actions rated as moderate to difficult, or a 15 to 20 difficulty.

Now lets look at even younglings, they are actually skilled enough in lightsaber combat to deflect and redirect blaster bolts, to some degree, and to a much lower degree than a jedi knight or a mere padawan, but still good enough to not only pull it off, but to have enough control to manage for a short while.

to me this is not possible with 1D or even 2D, maybe at 3D you can attempt it and have the luck required.

this would put a mere child at a minimum of 3Din both sense and control, and this in the very young age range, and long before becomming a padawan, if they become one.

then we see them spar and train with lightsaber, as the rules do not seperate between training combat and real combat, we see the younglings wield the lightsaber with enough skill to not miss the attack by 10 and thus injuring themselves, even if using a training saber.

in order to pull that off they need at least 3D to 4D in the skill.
as they do use frequently telekinetics, we can assum that with the easy they seem to pull off that, we would not rate their alter lower than the sense and control, all three being in the minimum 3D range.

If we then look to padawans, their levels of skill is far beyond this, and nothing indcated they are significantly at a "loss" attribute wise, amking it very reasonable to assume that a normal non heroic padawan woh simply spends his or her time padawaning would have at a mere minimum 18D attributes, and no less than 3D in all three force skills, maybe even a minimum of 4-5D, and no less than 5D in lightsaber.

in addtion we do see in the case of jedi that they do stuff with relative ease, and seems to not always use the force to understand or manage, in fact they seem to rely on the force only whan needed.
again making me think they have no penalty for being force users and they have and ocean more dice than any character can ever get unless the campaig lasts 12 years, and most capains last maybe 12 missions

if we look to troopers and non force users, they too seem not to be at the most significant disadvantage untile the force is used, and usually then in such a manner that requires success on a very high roll, so again only when in the 6-7D range will the force begin become a real boon and a true edge.

in fact we see very few people doing anyhhting with any particular difficulty, and this includes actions worth a roll according to the rules.

so either the player characters are maybe severly underpowered, or the game was never intended to be "heroic" but more the above average guy saving the below average village from the handful of average enemies, and then became the very very local hero.............very local.