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garhkal
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| Esoomian wrote: | Why not just use gas or something like that?
If it's only amour (not a environmental suit as well) then the gas will work wonders.
Either that or have an esoomian shock boxer with illegal cybernetic strength enhancments challenge him. After a few punches the crystalline amour would probably shatter. |
As far as i remember of his description, he did make it a full suit, but whether it is sealed or not, i don't know.. So gas might work.
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Esoomian
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| Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 5:03 pm Post subject: |
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Even sealed the air supply is finite so it you can keep him in a hostile environment long enough then he'll still be in trouble.
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Jedi Skyler
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Just strand him on Endor. The Ewoks will git er done.
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Esoomian
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| Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 2:22 am Post subject: |
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+8D vs energy... Unfortunately you don't have +8D vs log and now we find out that because it's big, heavy and wood it doesn't just run over the neighbour's dog 
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Jedi Skyler
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| Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 2:25 am Post subject: |
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| Now you're cookin' with napalm!!! |
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garhkal
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| Jedi Skyler wrote: | | Now you're cookin' with napalm!!! |
Wouldn;t that be energy damage?
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Esoomian
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Napalm would be yes however if you want to get really nasty about it and the suit isn't sealed then being covered in burning napalm means the air you're breathing will be too hot from your lungs... and may have less oxygen as the fire uses it to burn.
Also if your face is covered with sticky burning napam you're basically blind.
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masque
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| Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 2:29 am Post subject: |
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| Esoomian wrote: | | Also if your face is covered with sticky burning napam you're basically blind. |
Not to mention, y'know, ON FIRE.
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Vanion
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| Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 5:38 am Post subject: |
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In my GM opinion, I would certainly say it's overpowered! Don't have my books in front of me, but don't Barbel's have about 5D Str + 1D resist to energy... +8D with this armor? We're talking 14D to resist energy damage?!! I'd certainly escalate his group's challenges until the kitchen sink is thrown in! Eventually, the Empire is going to to discover that this guy is out there shrugging off blasts from AT-ATs and consider him a galactic threat! (KILL ON SIGHT!)
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awfulalex
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| Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 6:05 am Post subject: |
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| Vanion wrote: | | I'd certainly escalate his group's challenges until the kitchen sink is thrown in! |
The best way to take care of things like that let the other pc's force the guy too leave it as they are all hunted becuase of him and they don't all have 14D to soak damage  In the army they did the same thing with us. Punish everyone untill the squad sorts out the problem.
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K21DUBIE
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| Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 10:16 am Post subject: |
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| Bottom line is not much thought was put into that Armor by the GM. and now that the player has it, you as a GM are going to have one hell of a time getting rid of that armor, but it has to be done, that piece of equipment can single handly destroy any ideas of a story |
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Xynar
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The armor is decently unique. This means that it will become next to impossible to wear it out in the public before every bounty hunter tries to take him out. Also don't forget the collateral damage caused just to take this guy out. Can you say guilt? Maybe even some Darkside Points for putting innocent beings in danger?
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OtterJethro
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| Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 3:42 pm Post subject: |
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| dark side points for putting innocent beings in danger. Who would those be abd why would anyone deserve dark side points in this scenario? |
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Xynar
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| OtterJethro wrote: | | dark side points for putting innocent beings in danger. Who would those be abd why would anyone deserve dark side points in this scenario? |
To willfully put innocent beings (the public) in danger would be bad for the character. If the character knows that he is a target and doesn't care if there is collateral damage, dark side points. When the level of frustration of the enemy goes to "Nuke 'em 'till they glow, then shoot them in the dark." then the character will need to worry about putting others in danger. This opens it up for heroics as well as the character can help save these innocent being(s) but eventually the character should realize that he can't be wearing this armor in public.
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OtterJethro
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I still do not see how your scenario would even close to warrant a dark side point. What you are saying is "If you do something A, and someone else decides to retaliate with option D, then you recieve a dark side point because person W was hurt."
Another example of such formula would be "Luke skywalker learns to use force and become a jedi(something A), Darth Vader then decides he must convince Luke To join him or kill him. He thinks "I will freeze him in carbonite but must know if someone would survive, hence I will test it on Han Solo"(option D). Had Han Solo died(person W), you would have awarded Luke a dark side point?
That is the scenario. He knows that there are people out there that don't like it but you can not go about giving a dark side point because someone else chooses to do something. It sounds to me like that is a response to something you don't like or are jealous of and deciding to find some crazy explanation of doing the worst thing possible to his character. Wearing a unique armor of sorts would indeed draw lots of attention, I will agree to that but that is downright ridiculous to suppose that because someone is so intent on "getting him at all costs," that he is held responsible for someone elses actions. |
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