Force points and using light side points

[Zarash]

I may let characters have light side points and use them just like dark side points. It will be seperate from force points. If a character gets a dark side point he losses so many light side points. I am thinking since using the dark side is much easier then using the light side to cap light side points at a certain number. That way the bonus you get on force skills will not be overpowering. It will be an added bonus for players to do the right thing etc. because they know if they mess up and get a dark side point they will loose the light side points they have.

I am not sure how I want to go about doing it. Any suggestions or comments are welcome. I am thinking maybe letting a beginning character have 1 light side point then as they progress maybe making a max of 5 light side points or something to that effect. The dark side is suppose to be easier but the light side is supposed to be equal but harder to learn right? I figure this would be a good balance and a good alternative for characters to stay good.

[Gry Sarth]

I'm not too sure about that. The whole purpose of the dark side point system is to show that the Dark Side is "Quicker, easier, more seductive". If you emplace a similar mechanic for the Light Side then you diminuish the seduction of the Dark Side's call.
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[Zarash]

It would be similiar yes but I would have a cap on it so it would not get out of hand. I think I know what you mean about the seduction of the dark side etc. I just think there should be light side with the dark side instead of having force points and dark side points. I have not gmed any games yet or anything I am still trying to get a really good grasp of the rules and change around things or houserule some things and see how it works.

I just think that there should be some kind of bonus for a character trying to do right but make it harder to aquire. It would give the force player character some kind of goal and help a newer player out as they seem to be really limited picking a force sensitive character at the start. I like this better then just giving a character a dark side point. If it gets out of hand or anything then I will probally take it out.

[vong]

what it is true that a starting character who chooses to use the force is limited in nature, I dont think that this would be a good rule to add. As gry said - the bonuses given for going dark side are to represent the "quick and easy path" to learn the dark side (easier to become a dark side master then it is a light side one).

Now instead of changing this rule, think about what type of game you want to play and the type of players that are in it. If you have a good group, the players wont mind if the force sensitve player gets bonus dice to their character. You might even offset it with a force character gets no equipment, where a non force character gets 30,000 worth of equipment.

So there are ways to make jedi characters not pieces of flimsiplast, but you have to know the jealousy level of the party first. If your players are ok with one being a jedi, and obviously more powerful, then just give bonus dice to the jedi. Perhaps running a higher powered campaign as well (bonus dice to everyone) is a viable option.

all in all I think that there are many other ways that you can offset the weakness of starting force sensitives, rather then changing the rules.
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[Zarash]

When making a force sensitive character can you let the player exchange some of the 7 skills for the force skills? For example you take away 2 attributes for sense and control and have 1d in each. Is it ok to let a character use some of the 7 skill points to raise the force skills like regular skills? Like raising the sense and control to 2d each by substituting 2 skill die? Would it be ok to let the charcater have the extra bonus from the skill die only when in lightsaber combat or something like that? When does a force sensitive player become to powerful and upset play balance?

Since you are both saying it would be a bad idea I am sure you both have much more experience then me. Would this be a more viable option to use?

[Orgaloth]

Yes you can. Once you've established the 1d with the attribute dice, then you can use the skill dice to raise it. Also remember that the force skills are as cheap as normal skills cp wise.
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[Orgaloth]

Additionally, if you do go with the light side cap, how about they can get 1 for every 3d they have in their highest force skill? So there isn't a benefit for having 1 or 2d, but at 3d they get the 1d benefit.
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[Ankhanu]

[Zarash]

My nephew wants to play a smuggler type and brother is wanting to play a jedi apprentice character. I just did not want his character getting wiped out on the first fight they have. It seems like the force sensitive characters are very limited. I know from you all that they get more powerful later but I was just concerned that if his character gets killed off fast it would turn him off the game. They have played D&D before so it won't be to much of a shock but this is a totally new rules set for them to learn.

I am trying my best to set things up. They like playing with figures as well as roleplaying so I had to figure out the character moves etc compaired to the squares on the map. It has been a pain to try to figure out how I want to do it.

Characters
I figure at cautious movement it will be at 1/4 move because I am going to set each square on the map at 2 meters. So at cautious move they move 5 meters which would equal 2 squares 1/4 of 10 would be 2.5 so I will round down.

At crusing it will be half move which will be 5 because half of 10 is 5 and it would equal 10 meters on the map with squares.

High speed will be the actual move rate which is 10 and on the map that would equal 20 meters.

All out will be double there move which on the map would be 40 meters but moving 20 squares on the map.

I will actually be sticking with the move that they give in the book for each speed mode.

Vehicle movement was alot harder I took the vehicles move and divided it by 10. So if I have a combat snowspeeder it would be 350 divided by 10 which equals 35 from there I made that the all out speed. after that I kept having it down to cautious speed. I did this so it would work out on a map with squares.

So the air speeder would equal
All out = 35
High speed is half that rounded up = 17.5 which would be 18
crusing is half that which =9
Cautious is half that which is 4.5 = 5

Taking an AT AT is 21 divided by 10 2.1 round down to 2
All out is 2
high speed is 1
crusing is .5 so every other round it can move 1
Cautious is .25 so every 3rd round it can move one

Pretty complicated but thats what I came up with for vehicle map movement lol. For space battles I am going to stick with Star Warriors I think. I enjoy trying to figure things out and I am very lackluster in the gm part of games. I still have yet to figure out an adventure I want to do. I have a few ideas and will probally post in the adventures section so you guys can give me some ideas.

Thanks for all the help so far. I love this site a great group of friendly people.

[Ankhanu]