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ZzaphodD
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 8:23 pm    Post subject: Looking for mining ship.. Reply with quote

Im looking for a asteroid mining ship I remember I have seen in either a game book or an 'essential' book.

It had 'legs' on the bottom side to grab and hold on to asteroids while using some laser to melt it. Its not the Ithullian one. It had the looks of a normal ship (ie no insect) if you ignore the 'legs'. I think it was between 100 - 200 m long.

Anyone who knows what Im talking about?
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 10:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

First thing I thought of was the E-2 asteroid miner. Is this it?

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/E-2_asteroid_mining_vehicle
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 11:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What about the Trillion Mining Barge from GG8 Scouts? I noticed it did not make it into the complete starship guide.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 9:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It might be the Trilon Mining Barque you're looking for:



Trilon Mining Barque
Craft: Trilon Inc. Mobile Mining Vehicle
Affiliation: General
Era: Rise of the Empire
Source: Galaxy Guide 8 – Scouts (page 43)
Type: Work ship
Scale: Starfighter
Length: 80 meters
Skill: Space transports
Crew: 3
Passengers: 6
Cargo Capacity: 3,000 metric tons; 1,000 cubic meters
Consumables: 4 months
Hyperdrive Multiplier: x4
Hyperdrive Backup: x9
Nav Computer: Yes
Space: 2
Atmosphere: 100; 400 kmh
Hull: 3D
Shields: 1D
Sensors:
Passive: 100/1D
Scan: 200/2D
Search: 400/3D
Focus: 50/4D
Weapons:
Turbolaser
Fire Arc: Front
Crew: 1 (pilot or gunner)
Skill: Starship gunnery
Fire Control: 1D
Space Range: 3-15/35/75
Atmosphere Range: 300-1.5/3.5/7.5 km
Damage: 2D
Heavy Mining Laser*
Fire Arc: Bottom
Scale: Capital
Crew: 1 (gunner)
Skill: Capital ship gunnery
Fire Control: 0D
Space Range: 1/3/7
Atmosphere Range: 30-100/300/700
Damage: 3D
*Note: While the Heavy Mining Laser was designed for strip mining on planets, it has occasionally been adapted by daring and unscrupulous scouts and pirates as a deadly ship-destroying weapon. If a pilot can “land” it on top of another vessel – or fly right above it – the laser can cut through the hull of most small ships quite easily.[img][/img]
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 10:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dan Solo wrote:
First thing I thought of was the E-2 asteroid miner. Is this it?

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/E-2_asteroid_mining_vehicle


Ah, thats the one...

I think I saw it in the 'Essential Guide..", now unfortunately lost with the rest of my SW collection.. Crying or Very sad

I cant find any stats for it though. Anyone (Gry?) know if any exists? Cant find it in Starship Stats.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 12:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only official stats are for the Marauder Starjacker, a modified E-2 Asteroid Miner:

Marauder Starjacker
Craft: Byblos Drive Yards E-2 Asteroid Miner
Affiliation: Finhead Stonebone (pirate)
Era: Old Republic
Source: Tales of the Jedi Companion (pages 116-117)
Type: Modified mining ship
Scale: Starfighter
Length: 110 meters
Skill: Space transports: E-2 Asteroid Miner
Crew: 14, gunners: 4, skeleton: 10/+10
Passengers: 150
Cargo Capacity: 200 metric tons
Consumables: 1 week
Cost: 20,000 (new), 12,000 (used)
Hyperdrive Multiplier: x12
Maneuverability: 4D
Space: 6
Atmosphere: 300; 900 kmh
Hull: 6D
Shields: 2D; no energy shielding
Sensors:
Passive: 6/0D
Scan: 15/1D
Weapons:
Plasma Drills
Fire Arc: Front
Crew: 1
Skill: Starship gunnery
Fire Control: 1D
Space Range: 1-3/5/8
Atmosphere Range: 20-40/60/80
Damage: 8D
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 12:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No general stats, there's a modified version in Tales of the Jedi.

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STARJACKER
Craft: Byblos Drive Yards E-2 Asteroid Miner
Type: Modified Mining Ship
Scale: Starfighter
Length: 110 m
Skill: Space Transports
Crew: 14, gunners: 4, skeleton: 10/+10
Passengers: 150
Cargo Capacity: 200 metric tons
Consumables: 1 week
Cost: 20,000 (new), 12,000 (used)
Hypderdrive Multiplier: x12
Maneuverability: 4D
Space: 6
Atmosphere: 300; 900 Kph
Hull: 6D
Shields: 2D; no energy shielding
Sensors:
Passive: 6/0D
Scan: 15/1D
Weapons:
2 Plasma Drills
Fire Arc: front
Crew: 1
Skill: Starship Gunnery
Fire control: 1D
Space Range: 1-3/5/8
Atmosphere Range: 20-40/60/80 meters
Damage: 8D


The ship is 4,000 BBY, so there may be an newer model, but no other stats for it.

Good luck. Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 12:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, talk about synchronicity! Posted in the exact same minute.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 12:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lol, There's a saying about great minds.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 1:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great minds - big heads. ? Wink
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 3:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great...so if you 're-modify' those stats perhaps one would end up with something usable..

How about this... Lowered the ridiculous Maneuver rating. 2D is still extreme for a 110m starship scale ship. As it was it was as hard to hit as an A-wing. I assume Space 6 was needed for pirates, but not for a ship 'hunting' asteroids. Also lowered the crew size a bit given the original ship is a more basic ship than the Starjacker.

The Plasma drills of the Starjacker were modified for range and increased damage. I guess you dont need range at all if all you want to do is drilling into asteroids you have catched. Also lowered the damage to 7D.

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Craft: Byblos Drive Yards E-2 Asteroid Miner
Type: Modified Mining Ship
Scale: Starfighter
Length: 110 m
Skill: Space Transports
Crew: 10, gunners: 4, skeleton: 8/+10
Passengers: 150
Cargo Capacity: 200 metric tons
Consumables: 1 week
Cost: 20,000 (new), 12,000 (used)
Hypderdrive Multiplier: x12
Maneuverability: 2D
Space: 3
Atmosphere: 300; 900 Kph
Hull: 6D
Shields: 2D; no energy shielding
Sensors:
Passive: 6/0D
Scan: 15/1D
Weapons:
2 Plasma Drills
Fire Arc: front
Crew: 1
Skill: Starship Gunnery
Fire control: 1D
Space Range: 0
Atmosphere Range: 25 meters
Damage: 7D
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 3:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That looks good. Only I wouldn't lower the crew. If anything, modified ships are optimized to require less crew.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ZzaphodD wrote:
Great...so if you 're-modify' those stats perhaps one would end up with something usable..

How about this... Lowered the ridiculous Maneuver rating. 2D


I'd have assumed the base manueverability was 2D+1 as a starship can only have a stat modified by 1D+2 max. I guess it needs to dart in and out of floating asteroids, I can't imagine wanting a sluggish ship for that.

ZzaphodD wrote:
Also lowered the damage to 7D.


I'd probably drop that to 6D+1 as you've got a while to drill through an asteroid you don't have to destroy it in a single blast.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 6:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Esoomian wrote:
ZzaphodD wrote:
Great...so if you 're-modify' those stats perhaps one would end up with something usable..

How about this... Lowered the ridiculous Maneuver rating. 2D


I'd have assumed the base manueverability was 2D+1 as a starship can only have a stat modified by 1D+2 max. I guess it needs to dart in and out of floating asteroids, I can't imagine wanting a sluggish ship for that.

ZzaphodD wrote:
Also lowered the damage to 7D.


I'd probably drop that to 6D+1 as you've got a while to drill through an asteroid you don't have to destroy it in a single blast.


But 2D for a 100+ meter 'starfigher' ship is good. Lets not talk about the modified ships 4D! I think the designers 'forgot' that they were doing a 'starfigher' scale ship. Regarding the alteration it assumes they have worked by boosting the original maneuver jets instead of installing new ones. Regarding the damage of the drill I assume that a asteroids are rather more massive than space ships and that as a mining tool the power is adjustable.
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