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Raven Redstar
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| Half Strength or Lifting is a new D6 rule used by Adventures/Fantasy/Space. |
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CRMcNeill
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Not sure I like that. Half Strength generally means two characters can spend all day slugging away at each other with no real damage inflicted. Full Strength capped at Stun seems simpler...
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Fallon Kell
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| Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2011 11:33 pm Post subject: |
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| crmcneill wrote: | | Not sure I like that. Half Strength generally means two characters can spend all day slugging away at each other with no real damage inflicted. Full Strength capped at Stun seems simpler... |
IIRC, the default for unarmed combat is non-lethal. I rather like the potential for wounds, as opposed to just stun default. I also know it's possible to kill someone in unarmed combat, just not easy at all to do it by accident.
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| Raven Redstar wrote: | | Half Strength or Lifting is a new D6 rule used by Adventures/Fantasy/Space. |
Isn't soak similarly reduced or is that only for energy damage?
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Fallon Kell
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| jmanski wrote: | | I read something somewhere from someone about using 1/2 Lifting for damage instead of Strength for brawling. It may have been in the Open D6 or a house rule, perhaps that would work better? |
Doesn't it make more sense to use half of brawling?
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| Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 1:04 am Post subject: |
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| The only time soak gets changed is if you use the body point system instead of wounds. |
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CRMcNeill
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| Fallon Kell wrote: | | jmanski wrote: | | I read something somewhere from someone about using 1/2 Lifting for damage instead of Strength for brawling. It may have been in the Open D6 or a house rule, perhaps that would work better? |
Doesn't it make more sense to use half of brawling? |
Not really. With current Brawling rules, you roll Strength for damage regardless of how well you roll Brawling. It might make sense to apply the RoE optional Damage rules to reflect more capable Brawlers inflicting more damage.
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| Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 4:34 am Post subject: |
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| crmcneill wrote: | | I always thought a better system would be to somehow cap unarmed damage so that it only inflicts Stun damage, unless it meets some sort of criteria, be that Wild Dice or whatever... |
Or make an upper limit for what damage you can get to.. As is a wookie on a FP AND beserk can do 12d damage. More than a darn Thermal Detonator.
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Azai
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Though with Force Points you gotta look at it like "magic"
Or the "Story needs this to happen" type of deal.
Obviously a Wookiee can't do more damage then a Thermal detonator in the sense the detonator should do. Though in rage, and trying to save a person they love or care for... Well WEG gave us a little "magic" to keep the story going, or to MAYBE survive Darth Vader or another powerful PC trying to kill us. The force point. |
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| Azai wrote: | Though with Force Points you gotta look at it like "magic"
Or the "Story needs this to happen" type of deal.
Obviously a Wookiee can't do more damage then a Thermal detonator in the sense the detonator should do. Though in rage, and trying to save a person they love or care for... Well WEG gave us a little "magic" to keep the story going, or to MAYBE survive Darth Vader or another powerful PC trying to kill us. The force point. |
They more or less get transformed into a mobile woodchipper...
Even with MAP ripping 5-6 Stormtroopers to pieces is a piece of cake.. Somehow that FP doesnt seem that heroic...
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| Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 4:45 pm Post subject: |
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| ZzaphodD wrote: | | Even with MAP ripping 5-6 Stormtroopers to pieces is a piece of cake.. Somehow that FP doesnt seem that heroic... |
It helps if you envision the Wookiee getting piled on by at least a squad of stormtroopers. Kind of like this:
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Will Captain Kashyyyk suvive? Find out in the next issue!
Anyways, they are just stormtroopers. Ripping apart 5 or 6 Barabel assasins is tougher.
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| ZzaphodD wrote: | | Azai wrote: | Though with Force Points you gotta look at it like "magic"
Or the "Story needs this to happen" type of deal.
Obviously a Wookiee can't do more damage then a Thermal detonator in the sense the detonator should do. Though in rage, and trying to save a person they love or care for... Well WEG gave us a little "magic" to keep the story going, or to MAYBE survive Darth Vader or another powerful PC trying to kill us. The force point. |
They more or less get transformed into a mobile woodchipper...
Even with MAP ripping 5-6 Stormtroopers to pieces is a piece of cake.. Somehow that FP doesnt seem that heroic... |
True.. Heck i have played with some gms who actually do NOT feel it is 'heroic' for wookies to drop an FP for brawl combat when they already have the deck stacked in their favor with high str/../
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| Bren wrote: | | ZzaphodD wrote: | | Even with MAP ripping 5-6 Stormtroopers to pieces is a piece of cake.. Somehow that FP doesnt seem that heroic... |
It helps if you envision the Wookiee getting piled on by at least a squad of stormtroopers. Kind of like this:
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Well, if he hade ripped those guys arms off and ripped open their ribcages, splatting blood everywhere.. that would seen that heroic.. (12d damage vs 4D resistance = Average of 28 on the damage table). 
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| ZzaphodD wrote: | | Well, if he hade ripped those guys arms off and ripped open their ribcages, splatting blood everywhere.. that would seen that heroic.. (12d damage vs 4D resistance = Average of 28 on the damage table). |
Ah, but it's a Marvel comic book with art by Jim Steranko. No splatting allowed. 
Besides the Wookiee can do the same thing, just treat damage results as crushing and smashing damage. Cracked skulls and broken bones, but no messy blood - unlike real life.
Or you could use the alternate brawling damage that crmcneil suggested, which would result in the goons being only incapacitated (28 over soak is 16+12 which is 4 stuns + 3 wound levels). |
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