Telekinesis vs Grenade

[MacRauri]

I was wondering how GMs have ruled in their groups for Jedis who want to bat away grenade attacks with the force and other such feats. What sort of difficulty levels have you used, MAPs etc.

[Guardian_A]

I'm sure there are as many ways to approach this as there are GMs around here. But I'll share our house rule anyway:

For slow moving targets, we add +5 (A dropped item), items that are a little faster are +10 (A thrown item), fast items are +15 (A hovervehicle at highway speeds), or very fast at +20 (A racing swoop at full throttle or anything faster than that.)

[cheshire]

Of course, RAW states that you can't use TK as a reaction, though when we were doing the conversion guides for the d20 books, there was a "Grenade Defense" Force Power. It had rules and iirc a chart concerning how to deflect the grenade. You can find the book here:

http://www.4shared.com/document/uFekWqqk/Star_Wars_D6_-_Conversion_-_Je.html

The only thing is that it stated that you could also use it against missile weapons, a la the Jedi Knight series, but in retrospect I think that was a mistake. If you kept that logic, you could conceivably use it against any high-velocity object, allowing Jedi to stop bullets.
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[MacRauri]

are you saying that I can dodge bullets? ....

[garhkal]

I asked about this a while back..

http://www.rancorpit.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2012&highlight=grenades
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[MacRauri]

[garhkal]

Now i have seen some jedi pcs with 3-4d in alter not worry about getting shot.. they just TK the power packs out of the enemies blaster!
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[cheshire]

It just seems a bit awkward to me. With dodging, you're trying to get out of the line of fire. What we're talking about here is quite a bit more difficult when you're picking out a speeding object, having fine tune control over said object, and swatting it out of the air. In essence, one may ask what is the difference between getting out of the way of an incoming golf ball and catching it in your hand.

In short, it seems to me that the modifiers would just be way off the chart for this to even be plausible in a Star Wars game.
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Before we take any of this too seriously, just remember that in the middle episode a little rubber puppet moves a spaceship with his mind.

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[vanir]

Here's a little ad hoc guide on difficulties, work creative use of Force powers, ie. whenever a character uses them in a manner which is not strictly and simply defined in their description, treat the difficulty as for untrained skill use.

That is, conjure a difficulty, and raise it a level, then add modifiers. If the Player works with you to develop a specific Force power for this manner of using Telekinesis, eg. new power: Force Deflection, sense/alter, diff: easy/mod + 5 per kg as described in Telekinesis.

So a Player using this power "untrained" ie. he came up with the idea and you haven't ruled the details for this new variation on Telekinesis yet, what you do is simply give yourself an abstract idea of what the base difficulty should be and raise it to more than you think you should.
Tell him to use character points if he doesn't have much die, tell him this kind of RP will benefit his character.

Then later when you've ruled on the power description, award it to the PC at his next pip in the required skills and give him a CP+FP bonus for inventing a new Force power.


But I think you'll find though this type of discussion, if you play your role of skeptical GM there is a Force power which effectively replicates the intention of the Jedi in developing a Force power to deflect bullets.
Force Shields adds armour die, an effective telekinetic shield and PCs whom try to develop a power with this intention are by example, effectively researching this power without realising.

But the swatting grenades one, that is different. Separate it from deflecting bullets is my advice, and work on a telekinetic Force Bubble power that can deflect thrown missiles, mundane fires and gases.
Call it something like Force Shape, and allow users to shape and sculpt soft materials like rubber, gases/plasma and to deflect relatively slow moving missiles with some directional control.

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[Bren]