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		garhkal Sovereign Protector
  
  
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				 Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2005 12:23 am    Post subject: Forgery.. | 
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				How long would you say it would take someone with no base template to go off of, to forge imperial papers, giving them clearance to enter a restricted area? _________________ Confucious sayeth, don't wash cat while drunk! | 
			 
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		Chabit Rane Commander
  
  
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				 Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2005 1:02 am    Post subject:  | 
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				| A minimum of a month for a real good set. | 
			 
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		Grimace Captain
  
  
  Joined: 11 Oct 2004 Posts: 729 Location: Montana; Big Sky Country
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				 Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2005 1:39 am    Post subject:  | 
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				Without a template to work from?
 
 
Never.
 
 
You have to have something to work from, even a sketch or someone's visual recollection, otherwise you're doomed.
 
 
If they have a sketch only, or verbal description only, I'd say a month would give them something that could pass a cursory inspection, but nothing that would pass someone who's paying attention.  For that, I'd say close to 3 months.
 
 
And a real good forgery roll. | 
			 
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		Vartax Lieutenant Commander
  
  
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				 Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2005 3:47 am    Post subject:  | 
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				| I agree with nothing to go on, never.  But a good forger can get a hold of something, or buy something that would give them a basis. One of my fav characters specializations was Forgery: ids.   I played him a character like the Saint. | 
			 
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		Jedi Skyler Moff
  
  
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				 Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2005 7:58 am    Post subject:  | 
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				| Grimace is right. They'd need at least some kind of visual memory to go off of... | 
			 
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		Boomer Captain
  
  
  Joined: 14 Jul 2005 Posts: 688 Location: Terra Sol
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				 Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2005 11:30 am    Post subject:  | 
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				Since there is nothing to go on, it technically wouldn't even be a forgery. It would be a con. 
 
His forged papers would depend on his ability to con someone, which an Imperial would get an automatic success against as he has verifications for real papers. _________________ My backpack has jets!
 
I'm Boba the Fett!
 
And I bounty hunt for Jabba Hutt,
 
to finance my 'vette! | 
			 
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		Jedi Skyler Moff
  
  
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				 Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2005 12:19 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				| There ya go. You just have to con the Imperials into not even LOOKING at your papers. Kinda like a fake police badge- do the ol' whip & flip with them, like you've done this whole dance ten thousand times, and know you have ten thousand more to go... | 
			 
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		Ray Commodore
  
  
  Joined: 31 Oct 2003 Posts: 1743 Location: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada, North America, Western Hemisphere, Earth, Sol, Western Arm, Milky Way
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				 Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2005 1:27 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				| If you have a high enough Con skill, and the person looks inattentive enough, you can actually do it with a pack of smokes.  Ala Jake Blues. | 
			 
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		Jedi Skyler Moff
  
  
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				 Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2005 1:30 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				| "We're on a mission from God..." | 
			 
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		Boomer Captain
  
  
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				 Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2005 9:25 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				Basically, that's it. You don't have anything to go on, it's a con, not a forgery.
 
 
And just a short time after I mention it everyon gets creative with how to make it work anyway. _________________ My backpack has jets!
 
I'm Boba the Fett!
 
And I bounty hunt for Jabba Hutt,
 
to finance my 'vette! | 
			 
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