Solo (original spoilers thread)

[Raven Redstar]

I enjoyed it! It was as comical as I felt a movie centered around the exploits of Han should be, there were some darker tones to show that the galaxy isn't full of sunshine and rainbows, which I liked.

To be honest, going in, I didn't really like the guy they got to play Han. But, by the end of the movie, I really thought he did a good job at portraying the character. I ended up liking each of the characters in their own right. I thought it was kind of funny how the Imperial recruiter is the one who ended up giving Han his last name.

I thought the Kessel Run was done pretty well. They did a good job in explaining the 12 Parsecs bit from New Hope.

The only thing I was a little iffy on was the whole Corellia underworld thing, I had mixed feelings about it, but I think that was because I'd read a few or one of novels about Han in Corellian space.
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[Whill]

[Raven Redstar]

That is true, Corellia is a big world with multiple cities.

Maul didn't bother me much, in many ways his survival could be attributed to the Reduce Injury force power, maybe he botched the roll with a 1 on the wild die, causing him to be cut in half, rather than just losing his legs. The only issue with it has to do with his body expelling waste, how does he do it without a rectum or anything? Maybe Zabrak's don't have intestines like we do, and they vomit up their waste? It could explain his nasty teeth...

You raise a few good points with the name. I figure that once he got the reputation for doing the Kessel run and gunning down Beckett, he would have wanted to keep the name Solo for the street credit. It's possible too, that even though his dad worked on the YT-1300s, he was a crappy parent and so Han has mixed feelings about his family name. Maybe his dad ran off and left him to fend for himself on the streets? Maybe he got arrested by the Empire, and so Han ditched his family name to not raise red flags with the recruiter. Or, maybe his dad was arrested, but Han never found out, he just didn't come home one day: vanishing without a trace.
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[Whill]

[Whill]

Anyone else pick up Solo? My son and I watched the entire special features disc tonight. It's cool, but pretty short. There definitely was not enough to actually require a second blu-ray disc for special features, so the whole "two-disc" blu-ray set was really a marketing scheme to imply there was so much content it couldn't all fit on one disc. It didn't effect the price or anything, but it is a bit of a letdown because it gets your hopes up for more than there really is.

I still haven't finished all the special features for the PT because there is just so much that it got boring. I can't remember if I watched all of the OT blu-ray special features (I'll have to reread my review), but I may have only watched most because there was just so much. But I have definitely watched all the special features of the Disney SW films (except for watching the films with the audio commentary).

At least the Solo movie itself is so entertaining!
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[griff]

I picked Solo the night it came out and watched it a few times. I have watched most of the special features they were okay. My favorite special feature of any star wars release was the making of Episode 1 on the original DVD release.
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[garhkal]

Finally got Solo from Redbox. I was pleasantly surprised..
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[Raven Redstar]

To be honest, I've been enjoying all of the movies that Disney has done so far. Sure, there are a thing or two here or there that don't mesh super well. But, it seems like the stand alone movies are really really good. I've watched Rogue One maybe 10 or so times since it came out, and I'm planning on watching Solo several times as well.

I think the big problem that folks have been having with the Sequel Trilogy is their expectations for them. I'm really looking forward to Episode 9, and whatever else is coming afterwards. I love Star Wars, and I hope that we continue getting new stuff for years to come.
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[TauntaunScout]

It was better than episodes 7 and 8. Not as good as Willow. I'm pretty hard on the Star Wars franchise because they have all the resources in the world. Also, because R1 showed me that I can like new Star Wars movies so it's not just that they aren't as magical as when I was in my single-digit years. Despite my views on the story itself, I think it was the best look into "the rest of the Star Wars universe" far away from the military battles, that we're going to get any time soon.

[Whill]

[CRMcNeill]

Something that's bothered me about Solo...

And yes, this is very specific, but it's the main reason I haven't written up any stats for this AT-Hauler.

I love the concept of the AT-Hauler, but giving it a hyperdrive seems to fly in the face of Imperial military doctrine as we know it. This thing seems primarily an inter-atmospheric transport used to rapidly deploy light walkers, heavy weapon emplacements, logistics containers, etc. Given what we know about the Empire's lack of trust, why give this thing interstellar flight capability when all it really needs to do is A) transport cargo to and from orbit and B) move cargo from place to place on a planet?

Now, if the battle scene and the heist scene had occured on the same planet (or even different planets in the same star system), I'd find it a bit more plausible. A planet with valuable resources is far more likely to have military forces committed to controlling it, especially if the hyper-fuel / coaxium is as valuable as Solo made it out to be.

I only saw the movie once, and I haven't bought the disc yet (because reasons. I haven't bought a copy of TLJ yet, either), so I can't confirm the sequence of events. However, if it were up to me, I'd have the entire Imperial Army and heist scene take place on Vandor-1 instead of Mimban (we don't really need an Easter Egg, especially one that causes continuity issues).

My reasoning:

-If Vandor-1 is a known source of coaxium, that makes the planet worth the commitment of military forces to control it.

-It also means that the mining and processing of coaxium would continue, even while a war was being fought for control of it.

-It is possible to have both torrential rain and snow/ice in mountains on the same planet.

-The AT-Hauler wouldn't need to go interplanetary / interstellar; it would make sense to steal one during the chaos of battle to engage in a heist on the same planet and abandon it later (nothing to trace back to the thieves).

But, again, Disney seemed to think it was imperative that everything that happens in one of their films has to occur on a trans-galactic scale, when it could just as easily have been much more local in scope while still occuring in the SWU.

Anyway, in case anyone's been wondering why I've been so silent on writing stats for Solo, this is a big part of why. The only things in the film that might inspire me to stat them out for more common use have serious continuity issues that just don't fit with the SWU as I know it.
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[Whill]

I do not disagree with your logic. Instead of altering the film that the battle and train heist happened on the same planet, another possibility could be that they got a lift from one system to the other in some medium freighter in league with Crimson Dawn. Dryden Vos's yacht showed up on Vandor-1 to pick up Beckett, but it did not at all look like that yacht could have picked up the coaxium freight car had the heist been successful. Also, Beckett, Han and Chewie didn't leave the system with the AT-hauler. It got ditched somewhere on Vandor-1. So this proposed medium freighter could have taken them to Vandor-1 and could also have been available somewhere in the system to pick up the freight car (but didn't end up being needed for that second purpose).

The Solo novelization makes no mention of the ship having a hyperdrive. The book completely skips over how they get to Vandor-1, like in the film. My suggestion for your stats would be to leave out the hyperdrive.
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[Whill]

Solo ended up grossing almost $400 million in the worldwide box office. So yes, it was a box office disappointment in light of the last two films both grossing over 1 billion each. But even with it's higher production cost, Solo was not even close to being a "flop". Disney still made a decent profit off of Solo.

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