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PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2019 12:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love the look of Rey's new costume. It reminds me of Leia's from a new hope.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2019 1:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

garhkal wrote:
I remember seeing a pair of Y-s fighting over Dark star base, and even an A-wing on the ground. BUT not one B-wing so far.

The closest things were those ugly ski speeders in the rebel base siege scene of TLJ. They were also made by Verpine (who I just found out are canon).

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BUT why would the interceptor be trying to ram her??

LOL. There are so many possible ways to answer this question.

I think the pilot of the interceptor, which is probably Kylo Ren, is trying to kill her.

CRMcNeill wrote:
So, First Order TIE Fighter, and now First Order TIE Interceptor...

Actually Kylo Ben's TIE Silencer in TLJ is Interceptor-like, but the new ship's cockpit does seem more spherical.




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PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2019 11:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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"Fly closer so I can hit you with my sword!"
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2019 1:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Whill wrote:
"Fly closer so I can hit you with my sword!"


Hey, it's a legitimate tactic for a Jedi! The same thing was done in Rebels at least once by Kanan Jarrus. That was in the episode with the space whales as I recall. Laughing *waits for Whill's inevitable exasperated groan/rant/sigh on all things Rebels* 8)
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2019 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sutehp wrote:
Ray wrote:
"Fly closer so I can hit you with my sword!"

Hey, it's a legitimate tactic for a Jedi! The same thing was done in Rebels at least once by Kanan Jarrus. That was in the episode with the space whales as I recall. Laughing *waits for Whill's inevitable exasperated groan/rant/sigh on all things Rebels* 8)

You just had to bring up the hyperspace whales of all things when you task me to not groan about Rebels. That's quite clever.

In my defense, I feel I've been more balanced in my responses to Rebels. There are a handful thing I really like about it, and I am on record for giving it credit where credit is due.

Plus, for better or worse, I think it is extremely likely that Ezra and Sabine are Rey's parents, and that at least Thrawn will appear in TRoS. But let's please try to keep discussion of Rebels in the Rebels thread until we have confirmation of that, or at least until we get several pages deep into this thread. 8)
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2019 11:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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...but according to this guy's analysis, it's wreckage of the first Death Star. If so, then it could be Yavin IV or another one of Yavin's moons. Yavin IV isn't necessarily all jungle with no bodies of water anywhere on the planet. The ancient temples on Yavin IV could have have something to do with the Jedi, Sith, Whills, etc. Plus the first Death Star has been central to the plots of two Star Wars films, one of those being a Disney film (and it appeared in RotS). And TFA, Abrams first Star Wars film, is a reprise of ANH. Another clue is the medal from ANH.


That is my guess too, especially seeing how there seems to be a push to show the dark side rising somewhat..

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I think the pilot of the interceptor, which is probably Kylo Ren, is trying to kill her.


But wouldn't it just be easier for him to HOVER near and shoot the hell out of her??
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2019 12:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd prefer The Rise of Skywalker memes to be posted in the Meme thread. Thank you.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2019 12:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

garhkal wrote:
But wouldn't it just be easier for him to HOVER near and shoot the hell out of her??

But if he was just hovering, it would be easier for her to jump on top of the ship.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2019 2:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not everything in a trailer makes the final cut, or is even intended to do so. Many awesome things and awful lines were gone from R1's trailers when we finally saw it in theaters. I personally like the TIE-jumping scene for some reason I can't articulate. But it's not worth dissecting the sensibility of a fight scene anyway, now that JJ Abrams is in charge, we're presumably back to "fiery fingers of doom weaving through the sky" levels of disbelief. This is no longer a Space Opera, it's Space Opera Camp. Like Space Camp(1986), only, there will be sad songs in Italian.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2019 2:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whill wrote:
Sutehp wrote:
Ray wrote:
"Fly closer so I can hit you with my sword!"

Hey, it's a legitimate tactic for a Jedi! The same thing was done in Rebels at least once by Kanan Jarrus. That was in the episode with the space whales as I recall. Laughing *waits for Whill's inevitable exasperated groan/rant/sigh on all things Rebels* 8)

You just had to bring up the hyperspace whales of all things when you task me to not groan about Rebels. That's quite clever.


Thanks, I thought it was a good one too. 8) And to be fair, I didn't task you to not groan, I just knew it was inevitable that you would (or could choose to) groan at it and I was just waiting for it. The decision to groan or not groan was always with you. 8)

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In my defense, I feel I've been more balanced in my responses to Rebels. There are a handful thing I really like about it, and I am on record for giving it credit where credit is due.


Agreed. But it was still fun to poke fun at you about it. Wink

Speaking of the trailer, did you guys see the clip of Ian McDiarmid (AKA the Emperor himself) at Star Wars Celebration?

Ian McDiarmid in his best Emperor's voice wrote:
Roll it...again!

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2019 3:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sutehp wrote:

Hey, it's a legitimate tactic for a Jedi! The same thing was done in Rebels at least once by Kanan Jarrus. That was in the episode with the space whales as I recall. Laughing *waits for Whill's inevitable exasperated groan/rant/sigh on all things Rebels* 8)


I think she was quite moderate here. Better this than Galen Marek style
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2019 4:33 pm    Post subject: Re: Star Wars IX: THE RISE OF SKYWALKER Reply with quote

The title is a dyslexic nerd's nightmare. Sometimes in my mind I am misplacing the "the" in the title, making it Rise of the Skywalker instead of The Rise of Skywalker. I can already see me interchanging TRoS with RotS.

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Episode IX – Teaser

Did anyone else notice the rocket troopers starting at 1:29 in the video? That could be cool.

And the next shot of some skiff chase with Threepio standing up holding on to a pole gives me some anxiety, but that was probably by design. I want to yell, "Sit down, Threepio!" But it's not as bad as bringing Threepio on a rebel assault team mission in a forest with no camouflage.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 10:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sutehp wrote:
Speaking of the trailer, did you guys see the clip of Ian McDiarmid (AKA the Emperor himself) at Star Wars Celebration?

Ian McDiarmid in his best Emperor's voice wrote:
Roll it...again!


I was in the room when I was fortunate to hear him say that!!!

It was truly an amazing 5 days. I was able to get some autographs that I've been wanting for awhile now (i.e. Ian McDiarmid's and Billy Dee Williams', and Katee Sakhoff (Bo Katan from Clone Wars, and Rebels))...

And to put icing on the cake, I actually won a Black Series' Stormtrooper Helmet (I never win anything) after seeing The Mandalorian panel... truly a great day.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 3:10 am    Post subject: Abrams Met with Lucas Before Making TRoS Reply with quote

J.J. Abrams Met with George Lucas Before Making The Rise of Skywalker

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When asked about the return of Emperor Palpatine, Abrams had this to say.
    "This movie had a very, very specific challenge, which was to take eight films and give an ending to three trilogies, and so we had to look at, what is the bigger story? We had conversations amongst ourselves, we met with George Lucas before writing the script. These were things that were in real, not debate, but looking at the vastness of the story and trying to figure out, what is the way to conclude this? But it has to work on its own as a movie, it has to be its own thing, it has to be surprising and funny and you have to understand it."
It's not clear what J.J. Abrams and George Lucas spoke about or what the iconic Star Wars director brought to the table for The Rise of Skywalker. However, since Abrams brought the director up after being asked about Emperor Palpatine, one might think Lucas had a hand in bringing the villain back to help tie everything together. Palpatine's voice was heard in The Force Awakens and Luke Skywalker briefly spoke about him in The Last Jedi.

It's very likely that bringing back Palpatine was Lucas's idea. Here is the evidence.


(1.) After the success of the original Star Wars, Lucas had the idea that there were going to be 9 or 12 episodes in his saga and the Emperor wasn't originally going to die in Episode VI. Early in preproduction of RotJ, Lucas decided that he might make the prequel trilogy someday but he was going to chronologically conclude his Star Wars saga with Episode VI and thus Anakin Skywalker killed the Emperor Palpatine.

(2.) The prequel trilogy, which centered on the one who would kill the Emperor, featured a prophecy of the one who will destroy the Sith, thus enhancing the drama of the conclusion of RotJ.

(3.) Lucas had Darth Maul cut in half specifically to prevent any fan expectation of his return in the last two prequel trilogy films.

(4) After the completion of his film saga, in an interview Lucas emphasized his 1980 view that, contrary to the EU, there is no story beyond Anakin Skywalker destroying Palpatine.

(5.) However post-film-Lucas had different priorities, thus having TCW contradict aspects of the live action films. Eventually Lucas suggested bringing a Sith back to life for the cartoon, despite the fact that Darth Maul had been cut in half. This shows Lucas was no longer against resurrecting Sith Lords who had seemingly died.

(6.) When Lucas sold Lucasfilm to Disney, included in the deal were story treatments he wrote of a proposed sequel trilogy story. At first, Lucas was announced to be an Executive Creative Consultant of Episode VII.

(7.) Kathleen Kennedy recently revealed that the possibility of Palpatine's eventual return was discussed back when developing the ST/TFA.

(8.) Rey's TFA vision included Palpatine's voice. In TLJ Luke Skywalker mentioned the Emperor by his Sith name, Darth Sidious.

(9.) Both of Rey's visions and other clues in TFA and TLJ suggest the possibility of Rey being the reincarnation of Anakin Skywalker.

(10.) Before writing the screenplay for Episode IX, we now know that Abrams had consulted Lucas for his ideas about the essence of the Skywalker Saga to devise a fitting conclusion to it. Abrams publicly stated that this movie ties all three trilogies together.

(11.) Solo made the cartoon-TV-resurrected Sith into live-action/film canon. The film also uses the "There's always a bigger fish" gimmick from TPM by villain Dryden Vos being revealed to answer to Darth Maul, who in TPM answered to Palpatine. And Dryden Vos was shown eating one of the Naboo sea monsters from the ocean on Palpatine's home planet where Qui-Gon had stated the foreshadowing line.

(12.) The Rise of Skywalker film title is revealed at the same time as Palpatine returning in this movie which concludes the so-called "Skywalker Saga" that started with the first six films made by George Lucas. The teaser trailer includes aspects of past films.

(13) When Abrams was asked about Palpatine's return for TRoS, he immediately brought up meeting with Lucas before writing the screenplay.


When Abrams had met with Lucas, if Lucas was still going on and on to Abrams about how the story of Star Wars is about Anakin/Jedi destroying Palpatine/Sith, an Episode IX plot could have been devised that continues and concludes this conflict (again).
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I just love this image.


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