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Raven Redstar
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Thanks for the endorsement Bissler!
I'm gonna take a stab at the Acclamator-I from the Starships collection book later today if CRM doesn't beat me to it. The character also has about 150,000 credits in benefits from his lifepath background that I'm probably going to use for upgrades/repairs to the ship. I definitely want to equip the ship with some ion weaponry.
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| Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 11:19 am Post subject: |
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| Raven Redstar wrote: | Thanks for the endorsement Bissler!
I'm gonna take a stab at the Acclamator-I from the Starships collection book later today if CRM doesn't beat me to it. The character also has about 150,000 credits in benefits from his lifepath background that I'm probably going to use for upgrades/repairs to the ship. I definitely want to equip the ship with some ion weaponry. |
Sounds great Raven! I look forward to hearing more about it in due course! |
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CRMcNeill
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| The Bissler wrote: | | I'm happy for you to discuss anything here CR! I've revealed a lot of spoilers about upcoming games here on the Pit and my players have been well-warned not to come on here for that reason! |
Thanks for that! RR and I have already had one preliminary chat, and based on what he's looking to do with a Privateer campaign (much smaller ships, for starters), I think we can discuss it openly here without spoiling anything on the off chance that one of your players decided to snoop.
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Raven Redstar
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So, I'm just clarifying on the battery dice:
2 = 1D
4 = 2D
8 = 3D
16 = 4D
etc...
Correct?
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CRMcNeill
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| Raven Redstar wrote: | | I'm gonna take a stab at the Acclamator-I from the Starships collection book later today if CRM doesn't beat me to it. The character also has about 150,000 credits in benefits from his lifepath background that I'm probably going to use for upgrades/repairs to the ship. I definitely want to equip the ship with some ion weaponry. |
I thought you liked the Raider II...
I don't know if the Acclamator I's going to be your best bet, since it's mainly a dedicated assault transport. Some of the later models were converted into warships and, IIRC, by the time of the OT, most ships still in service were being used as armed cargo transports. It came up previously in a discussion about star destroyer strike groups where I posited that an Acclamator fitted out as an armed transport would be an ideal underway replenishment ship for a front-line battlegroup.
However, if you're still talking about your character being an ex-Imperial Vice Admiral, it may take some doing to explain how such a high ranking character ended up with such a relatively unimportant ship. Have you considered lowering his rank somewhat? Maybe have his background be that he was demoted and assigned to command of a support ship as punishment for some action that played into why he went privateer?
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CRMcNeill
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| Raven Redstar wrote: | | So, I'm just clarifying on the battery dice: |
Use this chart. If you're looking to get Battery Dice with pips, use the second chart at the bottom of the post.
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Raven Redstar
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| CRMcNeill wrote: | | Raven Redstar wrote: | | I'm gonna take a stab at the Acclamator-I from the Starships collection book later today if CRM doesn't beat me to it. The character also has about 150,000 credits in benefits from his lifepath background that I'm probably going to use for upgrades/repairs to the ship. I definitely want to equip the ship with some ion weaponry. |
I thought you liked the Raider II...
I don't know if the Acclamator I's going to be your best bet, since it's mainly a dedicated assault transport. Some of the later models were converted into warships and, IIRC, by the time of the OT, most ships still in service were being used as armed cargo transports. It came up previously in a discussion about star destroyer strike groups where I posited that an Acclamator fitted out as an armed transport would be an ideal underway replenishment ship for a front-line battlegroup.
However, if you're still talking about your character being an ex-Imperial Vice Admiral, it may take some doing to explain how such a high ranking character ended up with such a relatively unimportant ship. Have you considered lowering his rank somewhat? Maybe have his background be that he was demoted and assigned to command of a support ship as punishment for some action that played into why he went privateer? |
I did like the Raider-II until his life path ended up with him getting some spot promotions and he ended up above a Captain or Commander which is what I was hoping for. Having him busted down for some thing or another is a good suggestion as well. Perhaps there was a lot of distrust for Alderaanians around the time of the ANH and so he was shuffled off and demoted.
I haven't scrapped the Raider from my notes yet. I'm just kind of shopping around to see if I could find something a tiny bit bigger without being so potent as a VSD or ISD, Acclamator just seemed to fit the bill with smaller size and lower crew requirements. Also the insult of slapping him in a rusty old ship from the Clone Wars. I'm still open to suggestions if anyone has any.
I can start a new thread specifically for this application of the rules.
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| Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 4:09 pm Post subject: |
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| Raven Redstar wrote: | I did like the Raider-II until his life path ended up with him getting some spot promotions and he ended up above a Captain or Commander which is what I was hoping for. Having him busted down for some thing or another is a good suggestion as well. Perhaps there was a lot of distrust for Alderaanians around the time of the ANH and so he was shuffled off and demoted.
I haven't scrapped the Raider from my notes yet. I'm just kind of shopping around to see if I could find something a tiny bit bigger without being so potent as a VSD or ISD, Acclamator just seemed to fit the bill with smaller size and lower crew requirements. Also the insult of slapping him in a rusty old ship from the Clone Wars. I'm still open to suggestions if anyone has any. |
Any ship is going to be a trade-off. The Raider II is great for the actual process of ambushing a target and disabling it, but it isn't all that well equipped for taking on cargo once the target is subdued, which means that either the prize ship will need to be left sufficiently intact once captured that your captain can put a prize crew onboard, or have to be very choosy about what targets he picks, as any cargo he takes will have to be high-value to make it worth it.
Conversely, the Acclamator's going to be a much more expensive ship to operate, and your captain will have to take consistently take larger, higher value targets just to maintain overhead than he would with the Raider II. That also requires having the underworld contacts needed to move such cargo in bulk.
An option with the Raider would be to run a multi-ship pilot group, pairing the Raider with a captured bulk freighter of some kind that handles the actual boarding and off-loading of cargo while the Raider provides the initial subdual and covers the freighter while it does its thing. I suggested something in the past regarding a three-ship Pirate group composed of a Corellian Corvette, Corellian Gunship and Action VI Bulk Freighter. The Corvette and Gunship would make the initial attack and subdual, then the Corvette would dock with the target and secure it while the Gunship flew cover. Then the Action VI would close and dock with the target to take on any loot. In the event of the sudden arrival of the Navy or system security, the gunship would run interference while the Corvette and Action VI undocked, at which point all three ships would scatter. While the Corvette and Gunship would be the primary combatants, the Action VI would also have enough deck space to haul around a couple assault shuttles, too.
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I'll leave that up to The Bissler. I'm not sure what his long-term plans are for using these rules, so it could go either way. I know you're already talking about doing some things differently than what we've already discussed.
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Looking forward to hearing how it went.
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Raven Redstar
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I can't wait.
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So, when it comes to the Command roll, thinking in terms of a campaign adds a new dimension. The Command roll is going to be a major factor in the maintenance of the crew and ship from a quality standpoint from mission to mission. Some modifiers I'm thinking of doing:1) Instead of using the Command Difficulty, treat the value given for each ship as a modifier to the listed Difficulties under the Command skill. Naturally, if a crew is under the same organizational heading as the captain (i.e. an Imperial crew taking orders from an Imperial captain), the Base Difficulty will be Very Easy. Other units, like pirates or crews thrown together on short notice will be in the Easy or Moderate range.
2) Adding a modifier to represent Morale, based on how well the ship is doing over the course of the campaign. It's possible this could be based on a skill other than Command, like Persuasion, since some captains can be capable enough in combat, but treat their crews so badly that they're driven to mutiny.
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