Star Destroyers are really big (Shocking, I know!)

Yora · Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:05 am Post subject:

I was curious about the real relative size of the Super Star Destroyer and the Death Star, since the shot of the collision shows the Death Star with no curvature.

I did find this image that someone else already made and did my own measurements of it. And it does match very exactly with the numbers from Wookieepedia of 160km for the Death Star and 19km for the SSD.
(The ISDs are a bit further back and so appear a bit smaller than their actual size, but not by much.)

The Death Star is just ridiculous, but not quite as bad as shown in the movie. Wink

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CRMcNeill · Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2020 11:14 am Post subject:

garhkal · Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2020 3:28 pm Post subject:

Yora · Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2020 5:10 pm Post subject:

I'm pretty sure a garrison is not a number, though.

That's a bit like saying a ship has two crews.

"Enough soldiers to set up two garrisons that meet minimum regulation size" would make more sense.
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CRMcNeill · Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2020 5:17 pm Post subject:

Yora · Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2020 9:13 am Post subject:

Yeah, when you can air drop a fortress, that's another way to consider "big". And that's only one of the various secondary capabilities of that ship.

I was making some ship icons for Roll20 yesterday, and while I was thinking of a good scale to use, I ended up with this impressive image of various smaller ships next to an Imperial Star Destroyer.

I didn't scale it down to a sensible image size, so that you can actually see the starfighters in this image.

In this case, "smaller ships" includes a Dreadnaught, the largest ship that isn't a Star Destroyer or Calamari Cruiser.
I first made the fighters and transports at a scale of 10px=1m, but at this scale an ISD is 16,000 pixels long. Which is just ridiculous.
Going for a smaller scale makes starfighters too small to really see and grab with the mouse. Still not sure how I'll handle that.
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Mamatried · Commodore Joined: 16 Dec 2017 Posts: 1829 Location: Norway

A garrison is not a "numbered" unit, is where a unit is garrisoned. meaning an ISD can actually hold 100s of garrisons.

3rd Platoon was garrisoned on frachsham prime, under the command of lt.officerman

"Garrison (various spellings) (from the French garnison, itself from the verb garnir, "to equip") is the collective term for any body of troops stationed in a particular location, originally to guard it, but now often simply using it as a home base."

meaning that it depends on the size of the force garrisoned to anywhere.

I think the "two garrison" is actually closer to 2 legions.

though again this depends on the type and the non standard unit size.

We have legions on the size of regiments, battalions on the size of regiments, brigades on the size of legions,, we have legions of various sizes.

so basically the ISD 1 has close to 10 000 troops, or what is the general concensius on a full legion. this gane be devided in as many garrisoned units as needed, each of the normal 4 regiments can all be garrisoned on diferent places, making the ISD then hold 4 garrisons.

I think considering such things is flawd due to the non standardized unit sizes.

garhkal · Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2020 3:10 pm Post subject:

Yora · Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2020 3:31 pm Post subject:

And after having tried several different scales, I've decided to have both starfighters and Star Destroyers at the same scale in Roll20 and the like just isn't going to work. You could do frigates too scale with starfighters, but even then the smaller ones become really hard to see.
A dreadnaught is already way too big to make any sense.

I'm now doing anything larger than a Corellian corvette at 1/10th the scale of the starfighters and transport. (In Roll20, you can easily scale down corvettes and freighters to be on capital ship scale.)
But even then, a 1600px ISD is still gloriously massive. Very Happy

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Scots Dragon · Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2020 8:19 pm Post subject:

Yora · Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2020 4:07 am Post subject:

Isn't that the Dreadnought?
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Scots Dragon · Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2020 8:37 am Post subject:

Yora · Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2020 9:50 am Post subject:

Depends on the source.

"Welcome to Star Wars, where the numbers are made up and scale doesn't matter."

Since we never really get to see a Star Destroyer and a Calamari Cruiser side by side, any measures are arbitrary. Though I've never seen the 4000m number myself before.
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Scots Dragon · Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2020 10:20 am Post subject:

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