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How does one roll Brawling against an unresisting opponent?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 8:21 pm    Post subject: How does one roll Brawling against an unresisting opponent? Reply with quote

A blaster shot is rolled against the range difficulty number. A vibroblade slash is rolled against its own weapon difficulty rating. Everything adds the target's defensive skill roll to the difficulty, or substitutes it for said difficulty. A Brawling apparently has no difficulty number to hit if the target of the blow declines to roll Brawling Parry.

(My source is the pure Second Edition rulebook.)
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Base brawling difficulty is Very Easy!

Looks like that's on... pg 89 of 2E Revised & Expanded, but I vaguely recall seeing that somewhere in my good old 2E "blue book" as well... maybe.

If I track down the chapter and verse from that edition, will update!

EDIT: Annnnd it looks like that may have been first stated out right in 2E R&E!
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 9:06 pm    Post subject: I appreciate that prompt reply, sir. Reply with quote

I am speechless. The game designers omitted that detail as long as that? (I have supposed that it was presumed that brawling parry would always be rolled as a matter of course. Not necessarily by any character played by me; I believe in the saying, "The best defense is a good offense.")
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Second Edition Rules Upgrade does acknowledge this not being stated in the blue Vader book:
    Clarification: Brawling has a difficulty of Very Easy unless the target parries.
I can't say this has ever happened, but if an character being attacked is mapped out and can't mechanically parry, I would go by RAW and let the attacker try the Very Easy roll. But if a character is truly not resisting and willfully allowing himself to be punched, I would probably just say the attack is an automatic hit and only make the attacker roll a wild die to see if there is a complication.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 11:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whill wrote:
The Second Edition Rules Upgrade does acknowledge this not being stated in the blue Vader book:
    Clarification: Brawling has a difficulty of Very Easy unless the target parries.
I can't say this has ever happened, but if an character being attacked is mapped out and can't mechanically parry, I would go by RAW and let the attacker try the Very Easy roll. But if a character is truly not resisting and willfully allowing himself to be punched, I would probably just say the attack is an automatic hit and only make the attacker roll a wild die to see if there is a complication.


The ONLY times i have ever had an upopposed brawl roll against someone, was when the attack came from surprise..
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 12:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I have to say that has also happened in my game, an "unarmed ambush".
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, if they were really unarmed, then they must have been slashed by a jedi with a lightsaber!! Razz Razz
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 7:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

garhkal wrote:
Well, if they were really unarmed, then they must have been slashed by a jedi with a lightsaber!! Razz Razz

I see what you did there.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 4:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, at least they were not un-legged! Cool
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whill wrote:
The Second Edition Rules Upgrade does acknowledge this not being stated in the blue Vader book:
    Clarification: Brawling has a difficulty of Very Easy unless the target parries.


Reminds me a bit of this famous moment from DC Comics, as an example

http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/One_Punch
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 2:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

WillTasker wrote:
Whill wrote:
The Second Edition Rules Upgrade does acknowledge this not being stated in the blue Vader book:
    Clarification: Brawling has a difficulty of Very Easy unless the target parries.

Reminds me a bit of this famous moment from DC Comics, as an example

http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/One_Punch

I had that issue at one time.
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