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Whill
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 12:02 pm    Post subject: The Rancor Pit actively condemns hatred Reply with quote

Rose Tico Actor Deletes All Instagram Posts After Months of Online Harassment

This is the latest atrocity committed in the name of Star Wars fandom. The actor did not create the character or write the film. Like her character and movie or not, the actor did absolutely nothing to deserve not only all the fan bashing she has had to endure, but she was also bombarded with vile racism and misogyny by the scum and villainy of our fandom. The character's Wookieepedia entry was even vandalized by this hatred and toxicity. It's sad.




https://twitter.com/WookOfficial/status/1004804398105518080

I am confident that we don't have any of those pathetic haters here, but the Rancor Pit still answers Wookieepedia's call to denounce this negativity. The Forum Posting Guidelines address this and they will continue to be enforced. Thanks for being among the good population of Star Wars fans.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 3:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just saw the headline for this yesterday. It pisses me off that there are morons of this ilk in any fandom, but I expected better of Star Wars fans because the GFFA is such a cosmopolitan place where millions of entirely different species (never mind the myriad ethnicities of the human race alone) coexist. Then again, we saw this same s*** back when TFA came out and the white supremacist snowflakes were pissed that the leading actors were a black man and a white woman instead of white men.

But even then, were John Boyega and Daisy Ridley personally harrassed on social media for it? I think I would have heard about it if it had. But harassing Kelly Marie Tran is so utterly beyond the pale that when I first saw the headline, I honestly couldn't grok it for a few seconds. It reminds me of how Jake Lloyd was harassed just for basically doing everything that George Lucas told him to. But now with Kelly Marie Tran it's even worse because of the racism and misogyny involved in her case.

Call these bigots out wherever you see them, guys. Not just here in this forum, but everywhere you might encounter them in your life. You can't make peace with hatred like this. You can only fight it by calling the bigots out and supporting their victims.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2018 10:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

She's back.

Kelly Marie Tran: I Won’t Be Marginalized by Online Harassment
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2018 4:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whill wrote:
She's back.

Kelly Marie Tran: I Won’t Be Marginalized by Online Harassment


I'm glad to hear this. She had every right to refuse to return to avoid being exposed to such trollery, but I'm glad to see her return to take a stand and fight. Don't give the bastard trolls the satisfaction of seeing your back.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2018 6:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sutehp wrote:
Then again, we saw this same s*** back when TFA came out and the white supremacist snowflakes were pissed that the leading actors were a black man and a white woman instead of white men.


If I remember right, that was debunked as false (some troll started that story probably for personal amusement).
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2018 1:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Naaman wrote:
Sutehp wrote:
Then again, we saw this same s*** back when TFA came out and the white supremacist snowflakes were pissed that the leading actors were a black man and a white woman instead of white men.

If I remember right, that was debunked as false (some troll started that story probably for personal amusement).

You are not remembering right. There was an extremely widespread racist backlash to John Boyega playing a main character and stormtrooper, and a misogynist backlash to Daisy Ridley playing the main protagonist of the sequel trilogy. I personally witnessed a multitude of racist and misogynist reactions directly myself, in many places. This wasn't the work of one mere troll! This was the result of character flaws lying deep within the ugly hearts of many fans.

Stating gross misrepresentations of reality like the racism and misogyny that they experienced was "debunked as false" is like saying the Holocaust didn't really happen. For the record: the Holocaust really happened, the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting was not faked, we really did go to the Moon, human caused climate change is scientific fact, and the Earth is not flat. Saying black people and females don't actually experience racism and misogyny is being dismissive of these problems. That is dangerous, and anathema to what this thread is about.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2018 1:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can I still hate Rian Johnson?
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2018 1:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whill wrote:
You are not remembering right. There was an extremely widespread racist backlash to John Boyega playing a main character and stormtrooper, and a misogynist backlash to Daisy Ridley playing the main protagonist of the sequel trilogy. I personally witnessed a multitude of racist and misogynist reactions directly myself, in many places. This wasn't the work of one mere troll! This was the result of character flaws lying deep within the ugly hearts of many fans.


I witnessed quite a bit as well, and ended up in many heated arguments with friends of mine. It took quite a bit of arguing to even get them to see how their views were sexist, and we've been able to have more constructive discussions about things more recently, but there was a short while where our friendship was almost destroyed because of it.

I'm glad that the Rancor Pit is a hate free environment.

CRMcNeill wrote:

Can I still hate Rian Johnson?


As long as it's limited to the quality of his character.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2018 1:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

@WookOfficial wrote:
Hatred in this context means racism, sexism, harassment, and general toxicity.

CRMcNeill wrote:
Can I still hate Rian Johnson?

Sure. Hatred is the Dark Side, but there are no emotion police. You can hate anything or anyone you want all you want. The only restriction here is on expressing hatred. People just need to keep their hatred to themselves.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2018 10:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nevermind. I remember now. What was debunked was a story about someguy committing suicide over the TFA cast.

Whill wrote:
Naaman wrote:
Sutehp wrote:
Then again, we saw this same s*** back when TFA came out and the white supremacist snowflakes were pissed that the leading actors were a black man and a white woman instead of white men.

If I remember right, that was debunked as false (some troll started that story probably for personal amusement).

You are not remembering right. There was an extremely widespread racist backlash to John Boyega playing a main character and stormtrooper, and a misogynist backlash to Daisy Ridley playing the main protagonist of the sequel trilogy. I personally witnessed a multitude of racist and misogynist reactions directly myself, in many places. This wasn't the work of one mere troll! This was the result of character flaws lying deep within the ugly hearts of many fans.

Stating gross misrepresentations of reality like the racism and misogyny that they experienced was "debunked as false" is like saying the Holocaust didn't really happen. For the record: the Holocaust really happened, the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting was not faked, we really did go to the Moon, human caused climate change is scientific fact, and the Earth is not flat. Saying black people and females don't actually experience racism and misogyny is being dismissive of these problems. That is dangerous, and anathema to what this thread is about.

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