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PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2018 6:48 pm    Post subject: New TIE from SOLO Movie (TIE Gunship? TIE Bomber Prototype?) Reply with quote

Any thoughts as to the new TIE from the SOLO teaser?

https://scifi.stackexchange.com/questions/180937/is-there-a-new-tie-fighter-model-in-the-solo-movie

Looks like it has twin cannons of some sort in its side fuselage.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2018 10:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I mentioned this in the Solo thread in the General Star Wars forum.

Hell if I know what they'll call it.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2018 12:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You knew it was coming...

TIE/ac Starfighter

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The basic TIE Starfighter is a highly specialized space superiority and fleet escort fighter. Because of this specialization, it is deficient in other areas, such as reconnaissance, ordnance delivery and heavy energy weapons, and TIE variants have been produced to counter those deficiences. The TIE/ac is one such example. Based on an expanded TIE fuselage, the TIE/ac mounts a gun pod containing a heavy laser and heavy ion cannon, which are used to subdue or destroy larger and more durable targets, such as Alliance fighters or heavily armed shuttles and freighters. While it sacrifices some speed and maneuverability, it is also more durable than a standard TIE, and is also one of the first TIE models to be equipped with deflector shields.

Craft: Seinar Fleet Systems' TIE/ac
Type: Assault Cannon Starfighter
Scale: Starship (+6D)
Length: 6.3 meters
Skill: Starship Piloting: TIE/ac
Crew: 1
Crew Skill:
Gunnery 4D
Piloting 4D+1
Sensors 4D
Cargo Capacity: 65 kg
Consumables: 2 days
Maneuverability: 2D
Space: 7
Atmosphere: 350; 1,000 kph
Hull: 2D+2 (Particle Shields: 1D)
Shields: 1D
Sensors:
Passive 20/0D
Scan 40/1D
Search 60/2D
Focus 3/3D
Weapons:
1 Heavy Laser Cannon
Fire Arc: Front
Skill: Starship Gunnery
Fire Control: 2D
Range:
--Space: 1-3/12/25
--Orbital: 2km-6km/24km/50km
--Atmosphere: 100m-300m/1.2km/2.5km
Damage: 6D
1 Ion Cannon
Fire Arc: Front
Skill: Starship Gunnery
Fire Control: 2D
Range:
--Space: 1-3/7/16
--Atmosphere: 100m/300m/700m/1.6km
Damage: 4D (ionization)
2 Heavy Blaster Cannon (Fire-Linked)
Fire Arc: Front
Skill: Starship Gunnery
Fire Control: 2D
Range:
--Space: 1-5/10/17
--Atmosphere: 100m-500m/1km/1.7km
Rate of Fire: 2D Auto-Fire
Damage: 4D

Note: These stats are based on conjecture, and are subject to change as more information becomes available upon release of the new film.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2018 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hadn't even thought of it, but this stat fills a nice niche in the Imperial starfighter family, as no other production model is equipped with ion cannon. Considering the era in which the Solo film will take place, I'm picturing the TIE/ac as a contemporary to the TIE/gt and the 1st. generation TIE Fighter.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 6:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Saw this TIE in the trailer and thought it looked quite interesting, I'm a bit of sucker for ship variants.

Not sure about the Ion Cannon speculation in the stat block though, it looks more to me like a simple TIE with what could be a heavier loadout - it's lasers look exactly the same as the other TIE fighters in the trailer footage.

Just my take though.

I guess we'll see in May

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 8:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like the stat work, CRMcNeill, but where did the idea for the ion canon and heavy laser canon come from? Looking at the short clip from the teaser, I only see fire coming from the two 2 fire-linked cannon's on the secondary fuselage. Were you thinking the ion canon was on the main fuselage?

I like the ship's design - it's cool to see these variants on film.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 10:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The ion cannon was an intuitive choice I made since there aren’t any Imperial fighters equipped with ion cannon (apart from super-rare experimental models like the TIE Defender). I suppose it could be a modular pod that can switch out as needed for the mission assignment.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Question: What is the "ac" in "TIE/ac" supposed to stand for? We know that the "ln" for the original TIE fighters, AKA the "TIE/ln" stands for "line fighter". So what's the "ac" for? I doubt it stands for "air conditioned".... Razz

EDIT: Never mind, it stands for Assault Cannon. My bad. That's what I get for not reading everything thoroughly before posting.

EDIT 2: At least I got to make a crack about air conditioned TIE fighters, so maybe it was worth it after all. Cool
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 10:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sutehp wrote:

EDIT 2: At least I got to make a crack about air conditioned TIE fighters, so maybe it was worth it after all. Cool


Well played, Sutehp... Well played. Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 10:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's the TIE Antagonist. The main antagonist of the film flies it. It's different, so you can tell.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 1:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kytross wrote:
That's the TIE Antagonist. The main antagonist of the film flies it. It's different, so you can tell.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 3:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This ship is the Heavy TIE Fighter as named on starwars.com

Also known as the TIE/rb, with heavier cannons.

Means I'll have to call one of my ships something else now.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DirkCorman wrote:
This ship is the Heavy TIE Fighter as named on starwars.com

Also known as the TIE/rb, with heavier cannons.

Means I'll have to call one of my ships something else now.


https://www.starwars.com/databank/imperial-heavy-tie-fighter

Compensating for the relative fragility of the unshielded TIE starfighter is the armored TIE/rb, a reinforced heavy starfighter with much more powerful laser cannons.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Makes you wonder then, if its heavier armed AND armored, why it was not used in latter years of the empire??

But then again, that's my main gripe about adding in ANY new fighter variant in the prequels/earlier films... IF THEY are so bloody good, why are they not around later on??
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 1:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The classic answer would be "cost". If it costs less to train a pilot and shove 'em into a cheap fighter than it does to make a better fighter, then pilots are disposable. Also, it might be a point of policy by Sheevie boi himself that people are disposable. And, maybe there's some nepotism about "good enough TIEs" that makes the good TIEs be relegated to later projects.

Personally, I think it's a bit of one and a bit of the other - and a need for any new Star Wars movie to give stuff their own spin, chronology notwithstanding.
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