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Ray
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, 2020 8:03 pm    Post subject: Uglies... Reply with quote

Should I do a set of Ugly Starfighters/Freighters? I'm at wits end for my mind and need something to focus on.

Table Of Contents:
YT-Ghtroc Freighter
CloakHunter
TinY-Wing
Z-1995 HeadTorrent
ScykHunter
ARC-Torrent
DroidHunter
YT-Gunship
Scyk TIE (AKA: "Sick Fighter")
Rebel Alliance YT-Logistics Gunship
Rebel Escort Carrier
Headshape
Ynterceptor
Screamer
V-TIE
Superheavy YT-Ugly
Tri-Hunter Ugly Fighter


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, 2020 8:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Absolutely. My only suggestion would be to avoid using parts from known “modern” starfighters. IIRC, there’s a Random Ugly Generation chart out there somewhere that includes parts from Advanced Prototype TIEs like the Defender and Avenger. I strongly suggest concentrating on the older craft from the prequels and Clone Wars.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, 2020 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And check this out, FYI.


https://rpggamer.org/main.php?page=ugly-workshop/ugly-designer.php
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, 2020 9:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whill wrote:
And check this out, FYI.


https://rpggamer.org/main.php?page=ugly-workshop/ugly-designer.php
Yeah, that's what gave me the idea. I was thinking Rebellion-Era and earlier fighters.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, 2020 11:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds good.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2020 1:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ray wrote:
I was thinking Rebellion-Era and earlier fighters.

(Emphasis mine)

Imagine what junkers and illegal salvagers could put together from Clone Wars era fighters. Cobbling together bits of damaged fighters from both Separatists and Republic could make for some interesting second-hand units for pirates, private security forces, and under-the-table mercenary units.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2020 5:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



CloakHunter Ugly
Manufacturer: Ugly Workshop
Model: Z-95 Headhunter/Cloakshape Ugly
Scale: Starfighter
Length: 20 m
Skill: Starfighter Piloting: CloakHunter Ugly
Crew: 1
Passengers: 0
Cargo: 15 Kilogrammes
Consumables: 1 Day
Hyperdrive Multiplier: N/A
Hyperdrive Backup: N/A
Nav Computer: No
Manueverability: 1D (With Rear Wing Upgrade)/0D (Without Rear Wing Upgrade)
Space: 6
Atmosphere: 330; 950 kmh
Hull: 3D
Shields: 1D
Sensors:
Passive: 15/0D
Scan: 25/1D
Search: 40/2D
Focus: 1/2D

Weapons:
Laser Cannons x2 (fire-linked)
Fire Arc: Front
Fire Control: 2D
Space: 1-3/12/25
Atmosphere Range: 100-300/1.2/2.5km
Damage: 4D

Concussion Missile Launcher (6 Missile Magazine)
Fire Arc: Front
Skill: Starship gunnery
Fire Control: 2D
Space Range: 1/3/7
Atmosphere Range: 30-100/300/700
Damage: 7D
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Medium Ion Cannon
Fire Arc: Front
Skill: Starship gunnery
Fire Control: 2D
Space Range: 1/3/7
Atmosphere Range: 100-300/700/3.6 km
Damage: 3D

One of the most common Uglies to be made during the Rise Of The Empire, the CloakHunter took the body and nose of a Z-95 Headhunter and the wings, engine, and rear wing upgrade from a CloakShape Fighter, and created... An abomination that barely held together by it's weak welds and spacetape. Often suffering from reduced capabilities due to unstable power supply and/or semi-shorted out power distribution system. Despite that, they are seen often in the dregs of pirate starfighter squadrons before the Rise of the Rebel Alliance, with some pirate groups switching out the concussion missile launcher for an ion cannon, but if done so both weapon systems cannot be fired at the same time without risking the power distribution system and power converters bursting into flames.

All attempts at getting this craft through Hyperspace on a Hyperdrive Sled or Ring has resulted in pilots and ships never being seen again, so they are more often used as Parasite Ships connected via a docking port on a freighter or a space skiff, or from an improvised hanger bay of a Medium or Heavy Freighter's cargo bay.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2020 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



TinY-Wing
Manufacturer: Ugly Workshop
Model: Toscan/Y-Wing Ugly
Scale: Starfighter
Length: 13m
Skill: Starfighter Piloting; TinY-Wing Ugly
Crew: 1, 1 astromech droid (can coordinate)
Passengers: 0
Cargo: 15 Kilogrammes
Consumables: 1 Day
Hyperdrive Multiplier: N/A
Hyperdrive Backup: N/A
Nav Computer: Yes
Maneuverability: 1D
Space: 9
Atmosphere: 400; 1,150 kmh
Hull: 3D
Shields: 1D
Sensors:
Passive: 15/0D
Scan: 25/+1
Search: 50/1D+2
Focus: 2/2D

Weapons:
Ion Cannon x2
Fire Arc: Front
Fire Control: 1D
Space: 1-3/7/36
Atmosphere Range: 100-300/700/3.6km
Damage: 4D

Having the body and cockpit of a Toscan Q-6 Fighter mated to the far more powerful Y-Wing Engines and powerplant, the TinY-Wing Fighter is a dedicated Ion Cannon craft designed to incapacitate targets of pirates and privateers of the lowest order. Most of the "superfluous" systems are stripped out of the Ugly, such as the Hyperdrive, in order to lighten the craft to make it faster than a typical Toscan or Y-Wing, but at the reduction of maneuverability as the flight adjustment systems aren't nearly able to cope with the increased thrust of the ship. Astromechs have been known to outright demand memory wipes after flying in these vessels for too long, which is typically only once.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2020 10:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



Z-1995 HeadTorrent Ugly
Manufacturer: Ugly Workshop
Model: Z-95 Clonefighter/V-19 Torrent Ugly
Scale: Starfighter
Length: 12m
Skill: Starfighter Piloting; Z-1995 HeadTorrent Ugly
Crew: 1
Passengers: 0
Cargo: 15 Kilogrammes
Consumables: 1 Day
Hyperdrive Multiplier: N/A
Hyperdrive Backup: N/A
Nav Computer: No
Manueverability: 3D
Space: 7
Atmosphere: 350/700kmh
Hull: 3D
Shields: 1D
Sensors:
Sensors:
Passive: 15/0D
Scan: 25/1D
Search: 40/2D
Focus: 1/2D

Weapons:
Blaster Cannons x2 (fire-linked)
Fire Arc: Front
Fire Control: 2D
Space: 1-3/12/25
Atmosphere Range: 100-300/1.2/2.5km
Damage: 4D
Concussion Missile Launcher (6 Missile Magazine)
Fire Arc: Front
Fire Control: 2D
Space: 1/3/7
Atmosphere Range: 50-100/300/700m
Damage: 8D

The HeadTorrent is an Ugly developed from debris from Clone Wars space battlesites, combining the two typical "escort" starfighters from the Republic side of combat, the Z-95 Clone Variant of the Z-95 Headhunter and the V-19 Torrent Assault Starfighter. A pure spaceborn starfighter, the rotating fin on the ventral part of the hull can no longer "flip" upwards for landing, requiring the craft to be used as a "parasite" starfighter, using a docking port on a freighter or other type of capital ship for even the pilot to get out and stretch. It continues its role as an escort fighter, rarely being used for piracy, but rather more often used by smugglers to protect against pirates, or patrolling in space or the air during meets as an additional "incentive" to make sure that the deal goes down properly.

It is quite a nimble craft (especially for an Ugly), and often has the shield unit of either the Headhunter or Torrent side of the craft intact giving it better protection than most Uglies. There is some difficulty in finding pilots for the ship, because the Clonepilots were all roughly the same size, the cockpit cannot be easily adjusted for different heights, lengths of limbs, and so forth. However, due to the abuse the Empire heaped on the Clonetroopers from all walks of life, there are more than enough Clonepilots willing to go rogue in some manner and take up a life of crime after seeing all their good deeds and honour spit upon.

For the better equipped crews, or ones that can't get their hands on a Clonepilot or someone who has the same height and weight, any of the other varieties of Z-95 Headhunter can be replaced, with a negligible difference in performance.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2020 11:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



ScykHunter
Manufacturer: Ugly Workshop
Model: Z-95 Headhunter/Scyk Ugly
Scale: Starfighter
Length: 20m
Skill: Starfighter Piloting; ScykHunter Ugly
Crew: 1
Passengers: 0
Cargo: 15 Kilogrammes
Consumables: 1 Day
Hyperdrive Multiplier: N/A
Hyperdrive Backup: N/A
Nav Computer: No
Maneuverability: 2D
Space: 7
Atmosphere: 350/700kmh
Hull: 3D
Shields: 0D
Sensors:
Passive: 15/0D
Scan: 25/1D
Search: 40/2D
Focus: 1/2D

Weapons:
Blaster Cannons x4 (fire-linked)
Fire Arc: Front
Fire Control: 2D
Space: 1-3/12/25
Atmosphere Range: 100-300/1.2/2.5km
Damage: 5D

Built using the body of a Z-95 Headhunter and the engines, weapon hardpoints, and wings of a Scyk light multirole fighter. This made the craft more comfortable for pilots, while the ability to switch out weapons gives mercenaries, pirates, and other ne'er do wells a versatility rarely seen in Uglies. The Concussion Missile Launcher found in the body of the Z-95 is almost always removed to keep the craft lightweight and nimble, or has an additional power generator or shield generator built into the slot for more powerful weapons or defense, but this robs the craft of nearly all its maneuverability. Alternatively, the launcher can be retained, which is an option for pirates that are able to get their hands on ion warheads, but this also kills the crafts ability to maneuver.

The stock blaster cannons on the Scyk's wings are often modified for rapid fire, firing in bursts of five, at the risk of burning out the blasters, frying the power distribution network, or sending the power core into emergency shutdown (or just outright explode.). Rebel Alliance Privateers that use these ships often step down the damage capabilities of the blaster cannons when modified in this way, comforted in the knowledge that the targets they typical attack are only defended by TIE fighters, sometimes downgraded TIE fighters like the Mining Guild's TIE/mg fighters.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2020 11:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



ARC-Torrent Ugly
Manufacturer: Ugly Workshop
Model: V-19 Torrent / ARC-170 Ugly
Scale: Starfighter
Length: 0m
Skill: Starfighter Piloting; ARC-Torrent Ugly
Crew: 2 (1 Pilot, 1 Gunner)
Passengers: 0
Cargo: 15 Kilogrammes
Consumables: 2 Days
Hyperdrive Multiplier: N/A
Hyperdrive Backup: N/A
Nav Computer: No
Manueverability: 0D
Space: 7
Atmosphere: 350/700kmh
Hull: 4D
Shields: 0D
Sensors:
Passive: 20/1D
Scan: 35/2D
Search: 55/3D
Focus: 4/3D+2

Weapons:
Heavy Laser Cannons x2 (fire-linked)
Fire Arc: Front
Fire Control: 2D
Space: 1-3/12/25
Atmosphere Range: 100-300/1.2/2.5km
Damage: 5D+2
Laser Cannon Turret
Fire Arc: Rear Turret
Fire Control: 1D
Space: 1-3/12/25
Atmosphere Range: 100-300/1.2/2.5km
Damage: 4D

A rare craft, due to the GAR's tendency to scoop up ARC-170 wreckage before leaving battlefields if possible, is often used by pirates as a heavy punch against customs, militia, and planetary starfighter squadrons while escorting ion cannon equipped ships of other makes and models. This Ugly is made from the cockpit and body of a V-19 Torrent fighter and the wings and engines of an ARC-170, also retaining or repairing and replacing the rear turret to provide superior escort and dogfighting capabilities. Tougher than they look, these craft have a nasty reputation among law enforcement fighter pilots and custom ships crew.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2020 11:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you considered running these combos through the Ugly Generator to get an image, then including the image with the stats?
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 23, 2020 12:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

CRMcNeill wrote:
Have you considered running these combos through the Ugly Generator to get an image, then including the image with the stats?
Yes, I have, but had no idea how to upload the image to the forum.

Going to start working with fighters that aren't in the Generator, however.

But, question, how are things looking? The generator helps with the stats, but I am adjusting them to make better sense.
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Ray wrote:
CRMcNeill wrote:
Have you considered running these combos through the Ugly Generator to get an image, then including the image with the stats?
Yes, I have, but had no idea how to upload the image to the forum.
I'll walk you through it:
    1) Once you have the hull + wings combo you want, click the Assemble Ship button (if you don't complete this step, you'll be able to save either the Hull Image or the Wings Image, but not both combined).

    2) Once you are on the page with the Ugly's Stats, Right-Click on the image, the select Save Image As, which will allow you to save it to your hard drive.

    3) Go to your image hosting platform of choice (I prefer to use Postimage.org, but YMMV), then follow their steps to upload an image. If given a list of options, find one that ends in .jpg or .png.

    4) Copy/Paste the link into the following BB Code: [ img][/img ] (Remove the spaces, or just use the IMG button in the Control Bar above the message box for posting on the Pit.
It should come out something like this:

I can't speak for the others, but Postimage will give you the option on their home page to resize images. For example, this is what the above image looks like resized to 320x240:




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Going to start working with fighters that aren't in the Generator, however.

Which ones do you have in mind? The Generator seems to be pretty comprehensive.

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But, question, how are things looking?

The formatting makes it a little harder for me to read, but it looks good so far. If you're interested, here's the template I pre-made to insert Bold / Underline / Italic options into the text to help differentiate things. Shootingwomprats has another version on the same link, just a few posts down.

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The generator helps with the stats, but I am adjusting them to make better sense.

The adjustment is appropriate; I noticed at least one stat where the rating was ridiculously high for a ship of this size (5 months Consumables where fighters normally have just a few days).
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Pics added thanks to the generator.
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